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You might consider one of the newer nvidia 6100 series micro boards, your choice of vidcard will work fine in it and you will have more overclock options.http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Subcategory=22 , if you only want ATI (and i understand this as I am a steadfast ATI customer myself!) ECS has better results on the overclock from what I have read. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Subcategory=22
    
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am i stupid for not wanting a micro ATX? I've been filtering them out of all my searches...
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mATX is not so good....and a 6100 series mobo is crap for overclocking, trust me. Get the 3200 Radeon Xpress it is the best AMD overclocking mobo out last I checked, go and read some reviews on it.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136007 This board is newer I didn't even know it was out and if i ever need to replace my own Micro board i am getting this one, it has great reviews for overclocking, and no there is nothing wrong with not wanting micro. I thought the Tul board was micro my bad.
    
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If you can afford it the get the ASUS A8R32-MVP Deluxe by all means but if you only want ATI and no crossfire, most 200 xpress boards are micro only.
    
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post #16 of 29
IMO i would save some more money before buying EVERYTHING... and take what you have and put towards higher quaility stuff. no offence but that board is junk.. its like the 20th cheapest board out off like 300 amd boards on newegg. i wrote in you other post that you should def. get better memory. you have a good GPU and CPU but crap board and memory.. and these all go hand in hand. id return the board, and the memory if you bought it and wait til your next paycheck to get another board.
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As for the mobo, well, I feel that the lack of the following features will inhibit your potential to over clock successfully:

1) No RAM voltage control
2) No chipset voltage control
3) No support for RAM greater than pc3200

I feel that its support of dual 12v rails are a plus when over clocking requires greater accuracy of power distribution. Personally I think the mobo will serve you adequately for a low-level beginners over clocking adventure, but if you are experienced, this board is a no-no.

As for the memory, yes I agree that you should buy one more stick of 512mb pc3200 so you can get the dual channel option working with your pc3200 ram (make sure its the same brand). I also feel that you should sell your pc2700ram on eBay and use the money to buy more pc3200 ram (of the same brand) because the general opinion is right: mixing different quality ram will just cause all sticks to run at the slowest speed.

Your CPU is a great choice because of the low vcore and high 1mb l2 cache. Good choice and it will serve you well in over clocking potential. The stock cooler won't be enough to handle the over clock IMO (mainly due to increase in frequency not voltages), so again, it was a wise choice to buy aftermarket cooling.

Your power supply is good; it gives ~ 34 amps divided between 2 12v rails, which imply greater compatibility with future devices. Unfortunately, that power supply is P4 optimized and not AMD optimized so you may not get full efficiency for your AMD unit. Also, it doesn’t appear to be PCI-E compatible; I have not read anything about it supporting an independent 6-pin power connector that is required for your x1800xl to function properly (it plugs right into the card). You may need to buy a new power supply to be able to run your video card properly.

As for your after market cooling choices... any after market cooling solutions are breathtaking and extremely efficient. It is the one field of hardware design that can combine elegance and science. Your choices are good ones. I would recommend purchasing an aftermarket cooler for your card, choosing between the Accelero X2 and the Zalman lineup. From personal experience, my Accelero X2 has dropped my video card temps by 10 degree Celsius on idle and when I up the vcore form 1.075v to 1.25v and the vmem from 1.889v to 2.25v; I never get temps above 60 Celsius under load! Again, any after market cooling is a good choice to protect your investment. You've made a wise choice there.

Your hard drives, although dated, yes, will serve you well as long as they have 8mb buffers and not 2mb ones. I say this because as long as you use eide cables and have good udma 133 transfer rates, the performance of the drives will not inhibit your game play due to the huge amount of ram you have. Now if you had 512mb ram, like me, you will be gritting your teeth every time you hear a game needs 1024mb of ram to run because you know your system can handle it, but your load times will be excruciatingly frequent. The point I would like to get across is that SATA drives are not necessary for people who have >1024MB RAM dual channel and ATA UDMA 133 drives with 8mb buffers.

Summarizing:
1) Get a new PSU that is PCI-E compatible. SLI compatible is not necessary.
2) Buy an aftermarket cooler for your videocard. (Don't forget to use Arctic Silver 5 )
3) Sell your pc2700RAM on eBay and buy another identical brand 512mb stick to get dual channel support.
4) Gte a really cool game like Oblivion and play until your eyes pop out I am off to do that right now.
 
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post #18 of 29
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great post! THanks a bunch

What a relief to hear my HDs have some time left in them!

I think as long as the TUL MB works, I'll be happy with it until i get some more cash together..

also.. a friend of mine gave me these... http://zorak.monmouth.edu/~s0458063/ram.jpg
would these be any better for OCing?
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also, my card shows this on newegg... System Requirements PCI Express® based PC is required with one x16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard.
Connection to the system power supply is required (Adapter Included).

think ill be ok?
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To tell you the truth, I've never installed a pcie card without a pcie compliant psu, but since it says an adapter is provided, you can run the x1800xt with your current PSU and performance SHOULD be the same as a pcie-compliant psu (I'm not 100% sure about this so wait for other posts). But no matter what a pcie-compliant PSU will allow you to take full advantage of what power the x1800xt has to offer (this may be a long term goal since your current PSU has enough amperage on the 12v rails to satisfy extreme overclocking needs). Wait for more posts form other members in regards to the PSU and its compatibility to the x1800xt, I'm sure they'll have the same opinion.

As for your new RAM that your friend gave you, it's useless because it is DDR2 ram and that is not compatible with socket 939 mobos. I suggest selling those on eBay too and putting the $ towards a new PSU and/or the new 512mb ram stick.
 
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