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hey guys. so i've been lurking this thread for the past two days and i'm confused on whether or not to get the rat 9. i love the fact the it's super customizable and wireless but the feedback from this thread seems to be really mixed. it seems like you can get both extremes - it either works really well or really crappy. like many others stated in this thread, if i am going to invest ~$150 for a mouse i want it to have damn good quality.

from what i understand the "old" 5600 dpi single sensor version of the rat 9 has tracking problems whereas the "new" 6400 dpi double sensor version has no problems at all. furthermore, i've seen a lot of comments stating that they experience some wifi interference. can someone verify these statements?

i want to believe that this mouse is amazing but as a college student i can't justify a month's of food for a crap ton of frustration without knowing that the "new" version addresses all of the problems that pop up in this thread.
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Usually people only speak up when they have a problem and MadCatz will surly never release a failure quota so I think the best way for you would be to buy one, and if it's defect get it replaced. If never heard of a case where the return was not accepted.
I don't know of any problem that applied to everyone and while many users have issues with their expensive mouspads, I use something like this and have no problems.

You could also buy a RAT7 which is the same as the RAT9 without wireless and less cost, or you wait for the MMO Version seen here.
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Just picked up the 6400 DPI version of the RAT 7. It seems to track better than my G9x.

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hey guys. so i've been lurking this thread for the past two days and i'm confused on whether or not to get the rat 9. i love the fact the it's super customizable and wireless but the feedback from this thread seems to be really mixed. it seems like you can get both extremes - it either works really well or really crappy. like many others stated in this thread, if i am going to invest ~$150 for a mouse i want it to have damn good quality.
from what i understand the "old" 5600 dpi single sensor version of the rat 9 has tracking problems whereas the "new" 6400 dpi double sensor version has no problems at all. furthermore, i've seen a lot of comments stating that they experience some wifi interference. can someone verify these statements?
i want to believe that this mouse is amazing but as a college student i can't justify a month's of food for a crap ton of frustration without knowing that the "new" version addresses all of the problems that pop up in this thread.

I think the main problem people have with it is the excessive price increase versus the R.A.T. 7, of which the R.A.T. 9 is just a wireless version. I have heard people complain about how they give you 2 batteries, but if they are both dead your mouse is dead in the water. You cannot charge the battery that is in your mouse, so you will probably be swapping batteries back and forth if you are on your computer a lot. At least with wireless mice from Razer you can attach a charging cord and still use it.

I would probably go for the R.A.T. 7 rather than the 9 unless wireless is absolutely needed. Now, if price is a bit high still, you could get the R.A.T. 5, it has a lower DPI laser, doesn't have adjustable width, and the palm and pinkie rest cannot be swapped. However, it still has the sniper button, adjustable length, and weight, profile swapping on the fly, DPI adjustment on the fly... And the good looks of the mouse.
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Just picked up the 6400 DPI version of the RAT 7. It seems to track better than my G9x.
2mznt5.jpg

Really there are black ones with the new sensor too? I thought the Albinos where the only ones, which is cool because I hate the white look biggrin.gif. Anyway I won't get it because I don't like the thumb rest and if I'm not mistaken this part isn't changeable.
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Really there are black ones with the new sensor too? I thought the Albinos where the only ones, which is cool because I hate the white look biggrin.gif. Anyway I won't get it because I don't like the thumb rest and if I'm not mistaken this part isn't changeable.

Yup...Bestbuy has them.
    
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I got my RAT 7 (6400dpi version) a few weeks ago and I absolutely love it!

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hey guys. so i've been lurking this thread for the past two days and i'm confused on whether or not to get the rat 9. i love the fact the it's super customizable and wireless but the feedback from this thread seems to be really mixed. it seems like you can get both extremes - it either works really well or really crappy. like many others stated in this thread, if i am going to invest ~$150 for a mouse i want it to have damn good quality.
from what i understand the "old" 5600 dpi single sensor version of the rat 9 has tracking problems whereas the "new" 6400 dpi double sensor version has no problems at all. furthermore, i've seen a lot of comments stating that they experience some wifi interference. can someone verify these statements?
i want to believe that this mouse is amazing but as a college student i can't justify a month's of food for a crap ton of frustration without knowing that the "new" version addresses all of the problems that pop up in this thread.

From my own experience I have to advise you to avoid the RAT 9.

I have had three of them. The first one had a bad thumb wheel (which is forgivable, happens to everything once in a while). The next one seemed to work OK for about 6 months. It was picky about the mouse pad. Then the interference issue started (at least that's what I think it is). Needless to say it's way too late to just take it back. The problem got really bad so I sent it off for RMA and they replaced it with a new one. That worked good for about a month and started getting tracking problems again. So, I bought an all black cloth mouse pad and that seemed to fix it for a week or two. Then the problems started again. So, I changed the channel my WiFi router works on and again that seemed to help, but a week later I was gaming with a couple of buddies and it happened again.

Frankly I'm a pretty unhappy camper. I brought the mouse to work for testing, and although it doesn't get used as much it seems to be working (it's only been there for two weeks). So, basically, I bought a $150 mouse for work.

On the other hand, I do love the design. Personally I found it very comfortable. The adjustments worked fine for me (I have a smaller hand size). The batteries are not an issue. People who bring them up as one have not tried them.

One battery will last 7 to 8 hours. I found that if I had the palm rest pushed in all the way (which I do anyway) it only takes me a second to swap batteries. They charge in just a couple of hours, so you'll never have both batteries discharged at the same time.

This is a much better arrangement than the Razer and Logitech mice (at least some Logitech mice, others have much longer lasting batteries) The method of having a cable to plug into the mouse to charge it sucks. On the Razer mice the battery is custom so you can't swap it out, and it's hard to get out anyway, so you have to use the cable for charging the battery which means 50% of the time your expensive cordless mouse is not cordless. The funny thing is that I would be happy to have that now considering the problems I'm having with my RAT9. On the Logitech cordless I tried, the mouse was pretty nice and it used standard AA or AAA NiMh batteries so you could swap them out but it also had a cable for using the mouse when you had no battery charged. Not a bad solution, but I found the Rat9 superior because the batteries (LIon) last a lot longer and are easier to swap out.

So, tough decision.

RAT 9: Excellent mouse design. Very comfortable. Cool factor like no other. Great battery design. Feels great. Nice tracking if you get one that works well. Expensive like no other.

If Madcatz Rich had of offered to swap my RAT9 for a RAT7 I would have taken him up on the offer. I made that offer in writing when I sent the one off for RMA but I got another RAT9 back. I would even have been willing to pay the shipping. Unfortunately now I'm stuck with a $150 mouse that I'm wasting at work. I don't think there's a defect in the mouse, and I know it's not my computer because I replaced the main board, cpu and memory and also reinstalled the operating system. So, I am experiencing the worst problem a consumer can have. A mystery fault that can't seem to be narrowed down to the mouse or the computer. If I thought replacing it again would solve the problem I would contact them and ask about it, but I'm not convinced it would help.

Personally, I would recommend a RAT 7. The cord will eliminate any of the problems I seemed to have with the RAT 9.

For me, this is like having a Porsche in my driveway that I can't use. The more I think about it the more it pi$$es me off.
Edited by Mergatroid - 1/28/12 at 5:04pm
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From my own experience I have to advise you to avoid the RAT 9.
I have had three of them. The first one had a bad thumb wheel (which is forgivable, happens to everything once in a while). The next one seemed to work OK for about 6 months. It was picky about the mouse pad. Then the interference issue started (at least that's what I think it is). Needless to say it's way too late to just take it back. The problem got really bad so I sent it off for RMA and they replaced it with a new one. That worked good for about a month and started getting tracking problems again. So, I bought an all black cloth mouse pad and that seemed to fix it for a week or two. Then the problems started again. So, I changed the channel my WiFi router works on and again that seemed to help, but a week later I was gaming with a couple of buddies and it happened again.
Frankly I'm a pretty unhappy camper. I brought the mouse to work for testing, and although it doesn't get used as much it seems to be working (it's only been there for two weeks). So, basically, I bought a $150 mouse for work.
On the other hand, I do love the design. Personally I found it very comfortable. The adjustments worked fine for me (I have a smaller hand size). The batteries are not an issue. People who bring them up as one have not tried them.
One battery will last 7 to 8 hours. I found that if I had the palm rest pushed in all the way (which I do anyway) it only takes me a second to swap batteries. They charge in just a couple of hours, so you'll never have both batteries discharged at the same time.
This is a much better arrangement than the Razer and Logitech mice (at least some Logitech mice, others have much longer lasting batteries) The method of having a cable to plug into the mouse to charge it sucks. On the Razer mice the battery is custom so you can't swap it out, and it's hard to get out anyway, so you have to use the cable for charging the battery which means 50% of the time your expensive cordless mouse is not cordless. The funny thing is that I would be happy to have that now considering the problems I'm having with my RAT9. On the Logitech cordless I tried, the mouse was pretty nice and it used standard AA or AAA NiMh batteries so you could swap them out but it also had a cable for using the mouse when you had no battery charged. Not a bad solution, but I found the Rat9 superior because the batteries (LIon) last a lot longer and are easier to swap out.
So, tough decision.
RAT 9: Excellent mouse design. Very comfortable. Cool factor like no other. Great battery design. Feels great. Nice tracking if you get one that works well. Expensive like no other.
If Madcatz Rich had of offered to swap my RAT9 for a RAT7 I would have taken him up on the offer. I made that offer in writing when I sent the one off for RMA but I got another RAT9 back. I would even have been willing to pay the shipping. Unfortunately now I'm stuck with a $150 mouse that I'm wasting at work. I don't think there's a defect in the mouse, and I know it's not my computer because I replaced the main board, cpu and memory and also reinstalled the operating system. So, I am experiencing the worst problem a consumer can have. A mystery fault that can't seem to be narrowed down to the mouse or the computer. If I thought replacing it again would solve the problem I would contact them and ask about it, but I'm not convinced it would help.
Personally, I would recommend a RAT 7. The cord will eliminate any of the problems I seemed to have with the RAT 9.
For me, this is like having a Porsche in my driveway that I can't use. The more I think about it the more it pi$$es me off.

Sounds like the typical Philips Twin-Eye sensor and dust particles on the lens issue to me. Cleaning the sensor with a moist q-tip from time to time should do the trick (if this is really the issue).
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@ Arkonos - that's a pretty good point, it would make sense that to read more about problems than praises.

@./Cy4n1d3\. - yeah i heard about batteries being doa.

@ Mergatroid - did you have the 5600 dpi or the 6400 version. the problem that you were experiencing with your rat 9 is the reason i was so hesitant. are you an engineer? if you are i bet all of your co-workers are jealous of your "work" mouse haha (i'm an engineer too).

thanks for your replies! although i love the convenience that wireless has to offer, i'm highly considering a rat 7 now.
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