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@Art Vanelay - NEVER have enhance pointer precision enabled with a modern high DPI mouse. It just messes up your mouse pointer control.
@Mergatroid - are you using a foam mouse mat or hard surface?
@cravinmild - make sure that you have both the drivers and the software. They're two separate downloads.
@aztoiozalan - if the scroll wheel is just spinning freely then the spindle inside has possibly snapped. You can open the R.A.T. up and replace the spindle with some DIY but it's not a part that we supply. For your software issue, make sure that .Net 3.5 SP1 is up to date using this link: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=22

Hmm. I've been using it forever, tried it without and couldn't get used to it. I cant see it really hurting, atleast for me. ;) What exactly does it do?

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@Art Vanelay - NEVER have enhance pointer precision enabled with a modern high DPI mouse. It just messes up your mouse pointer control.
The problem was that setting Windows sensitivity too high caused the mouse to have a lot of jitter, enhance pointer precision just decreased the sensitivity to the point where the jitter disappeared. Do you know why high Windows sensitivity causes errors?

This picture demonstrates the problem I was having. Enhance pointer precision was off in this. The low sensitivity side looks slightly jittery, is that normal?

I decided to do some further testing with my deathadder; the same jitter appears to happen with it too, but when I move it fast, the jitter disappears.


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Hmm. I've been using it forever, tried it without and couldn't get used to it. I cant see it really hurting, atleast for me. wink.gif What exactly does it do?
As far as I can tell, it decreases the sensitivity significantly and probably puts on some sort of acceleration.
Edited by Art Vanelay - 8/28/12 at 3:34pm
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Where do i request a warranty replacement? My right click button has gone bad and doesn't click correctly anymore. It sometimes clicks when i lift the mouse, and it is very soft, unlike it normally is frown.gif



EDIT: I submitted a support ticket. now awaiting a response
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@Art Vanelay - NEVER have enhance pointer precision enabled with a modern high DPI mouse. It just messes up your mouse pointer control.
@Mergatroid - are you using a foam mouse mat or hard surface?

I use a Cyborg aluminum mouse pad. Using the red side.

Just to note, I always use acceleration with my mice. I tried a registry hack to remove it, and I hated it. I uninstalled the hack and use a little acceleration with my mouse. I have used it on all the laser gaming mice I have bought and prefer it especially for the desktop. Others I know with laser mice (Logitechs and Razers) also use it and never complain. I think it really depends on preference and what you're used to using. I tried that hack for about a month and just couldn't get used to it. I like having the pointer move less distance when I am moving the mouse slowly, and a further distance when I move it quickly.

Also note that when I removed all acceleration it had no effect on the tracking issues. IMO, the tell tail sign here is that none of the other mice I have exhibit any of these symptoms. The click-drifting fault only shows up about once a month now, and I haven't had a complete failure of an axis since I brought it back from a two week test period at work. I'm not really complaining, just mentioning the issues I've had. Overall I like the mouse enough that I'm still using it. I love the way the batteries work, I love that it never has to be plugged in, I love that it's heavy and fits my hand perfectly, I love the look, and when everything is working perfectly, I love the performance.

The biggest hiccup now is the click-drift fault. I have no idea what could be causing it. It happens on any surface. It continues happening even after cleaning it. It always goes in the same direction. Still, I can live with it. It's funny though that it just stops by itself. At least it happens so infrequently that it's not causing major issues.
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I use a Cyborg aluminum mouse pad. Using the red side.
Just to note, I always use acceleration with my mice. I tried a registry hack to remove it, and I hated it. I uninstalled the hack and use a little acceleration with my mouse. I have used it on all the laser gaming mice I have bought and prefer it especially for the desktop. Others I know with laser mice (Logitechs and Razers) also use it and never complain. I think it really depends on preference and what you're used to using. I tried that hack for about a month and just couldn't get used to it. I like having the pointer move less distance when I am moving the mouse slowly, and a further distance when I move it quickly.
Also note that when I removed all acceleration it had no effect on the tracking issues. IMO, the tell tail sign here is that none of the other mice I have exhibit any of these symptoms. The click-drifting fault only shows up about once a month now, and I haven't had a complete failure of an axis since I brought it back from a two week test period at work. I'm not really complaining, just mentioning the issues I've had. Overall I like the mouse enough that I'm still using it. I love the way the batteries work, I love that it never has to be plugged in, I love that it's heavy and fits my hand perfectly, I love the look, and when everything is working perfectly, I love the performance.
The biggest hiccup now is the click-drift fault. I have no idea what could be causing it. It happens on any surface. It continues happening even after cleaning it. It always goes in the same direction. Still, I can live with it. It's funny though that it just stops by itself. At least it happens so infrequently that it's not causing major issues.


If that it drifts when I click it if I hold it at abd angle or put too much pressure on the back are you sure that's not the problem you are having.

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I use a Cyborg aluminum mouse pad. Using the red side.
Does this mouse work with cloth mouse pads as well?
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I use mine witha cloth QCk+
    
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I use mine witha cloth QCk+
Does it actually work without jitter? I've heard some bad things about the phillips twin eye sensor.
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If that it drifts when I click it if I hold it at abd angle or put too much pressure on the back are you sure that's not the problem you are having.

Nope, it's flat on the mouse pad. As I mentioned, it's intermittent. I can play a game one day and everything is perfect. I could play the same game the next day, and with everything being the same the mouse will drift down and to the right whenever I click the button. I can clean the laser and change surface but it still happens. The next day I can try it again in the same game and it will work perfectly.

As I mentioned, it's really not happening enough to bother me a lot, and I have a couple of really nice mice I can use as spares when it does happen.
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Does this mouse work with cloth mouse pads as well?

I used a $1.50 black cloth pad for a couple of months and it worked fine until it started falling apart. However, it had more resistance than the hard pads have. With the Cyborg aluminum pad, I can just touch the mouse a little and it will move. I can actually spin the mouse since it's cordless (RAT 9).

The only thing I don't like about the aluminum pad is that the edges are bare aluminum, and it can at times cause your wrist to get cold.
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Does it actually work without jitter? I've heard some bad things about the phillips twin eye sensor.

Yep, i had no issues with the tracking.
    
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