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post #2381 of 3822
I have the Rat7. I have updated the drivers but I still have a problem.

I use the thumb wheel for volume up/down. Clockwise for volume and and counter clockwise for volume down. When turning the volume down, the volume will go according to the amount of turning I give the wheel, and withing one second, it will just drop the volume to the lowest level (0).

Ive had this problem before, over the year + of owning the mousing, but at one time there was a driver, which I cannot remember, that solved this problem. Since then, I have wiped my OS and now I the problem is back, with a newer driver. (7.0.20.0). Running 64bit windows 7.

Anyone have any idea on how I can fix this?
post #2382 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Mad Catz Rich View Post

FYI, for anyone still wondering which mouse pad to use with the R.A.T.s, well, wonder no more
We've been working on these for a while now and they're tuned to make sure that they get the absolute best out of the twin eye sensor. The 3, 5 and 7 should be available shortly (i.e. in the next week or two, depending on where you are) and the 9 is a bit further out than that.
A color scheme suiting my MMO7 is something I'd definitely buy. Few mouse pads feature anything close to that orange without some random specific game on it - and I can't say I love any one game enough to have it forever below my mouse. The glide 7 with the mad Catz slashes would be perfect if the slashes were off MMO7 orange! Also the background could be MMO7 black biggrin.gif

Edit: ooh, I see you put four links there. Okay then the 3 looks quite nice color wise, but isnt it dwarfed by glide 9s accuracy? Is glide 9 one specific color because it enhances accuracy?
Edited by HecticSeptic - 10/19/12 at 1:54am
post #2383 of 3822
Each surface uses specific colours that work best for the material that surface is made from. So for the 3 & 5 the red and silver work nicely, however on the 7 (which is silicone) red actually gave us fairly bad performance - white and silver were best there. The lack of scratches on the 9 is simply a practical matter - any method of putting them on an anodised aluminium surface would need serious protection to stop them wearing off with use (the low-friction coating we use on the 7 to stop this from happening won't work on the aluminium) and that protection wouldn't give a good glide coefficient. The red anodising we used there does provide a 100% improvement over the standard silver anodising you might see on other aluminium surfaces.

You'll note that black has not been used as a main colour on any of them and that's specifically because black is the worst performing colour of all, by some margin.
post #2384 of 3822
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Originally Posted by freebeer187 View Post

I have the Rat7. I have updated the drivers but I still have a problem.
I use the thumb wheel for volume up/down. Clockwise for volume and and counter clockwise for volume down. When turning the volume down, the volume will go according to the amount of turning I give the wheel, and withing one second, it will just drop the volume to the lowest level (0).
Ive had this problem before, over the year + of owning the mousing, but at one time there was a driver, which I cannot remember, that solved this problem. Since then, I have wiped my OS and now I the problem is back, with a newer driver. (7.0.20.0). Running 64bit windows 7.
Anyone have any idea on how I can fix this?

Does the same problem occur when you turn the volume up? If not then if you reverse the assignments on the thumb wheel, does the problem then occur with volume up?
post #2385 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Mad Catz Rich View Post

Does the same problem occur when you turn the volume up? If not then if you reverse the assignments on the thumb wheel, does the problem then occur with volume up?

Yes, it does occur if I reverse the assignments on the thumb wheel. I tried that. My studio monitors went to the max volume. Scared the crap out of me smile.gif

Thanks for you reply btw. Any ideas? Would you happen to have a changelog and or access to older drivers? I did search quite a bit and I was not able to find anything. I did contact tech support about it about a year ago, and it seems that around Feburary of 2012 I replied stating that the problem was fixed due to a driver update, so it could be a driver that was released around then. Ticket ID: 1742.
post #2386 of 3822
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Originally Posted by Mad Catz Rich View Post

Each surface uses specific colours that work best for the material that surface is made from. So for the 3 & 5 the red and silver work nicely, however on the 7 (which is silicone) red actually gave us fairly bad performance - white and silver were best there. The lack of scratches on the 9 is simply a practical matter - any method of putting them on an anodised aluminium surface would need serious protection to stop them wearing off with use (the low-friction coating we use on the 7 to stop this from happening won't work on the aluminium) and that protection wouldn't give a good glide coefficient. The red anodising we used there does provide a 100% improvement over the standard silver anodising you might see on other aluminium surfaces.
You'll note that black has not been used as a main colour on any of them and that's specifically because black is the worst performing colour of all, by some margin.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Catz Rich View Post

Each surface uses specific colours that work best for the material that surface is made from. So for the 3 & 5 the red and silver work nicely, however on the 7 (which is silicone) red actually gave us fairly bad performance - white and silver were best there. The lack of scratches on the 9 is simply a practical matter - any method of putting them on an anodised aluminium surface would need serious protection to stop them wearing off with use (the low-friction coating we use on the 7 to stop this from happening won't work on the aluminium) and that protection wouldn't give a good glide coefficient. The red anodising we used there does provide a 100% improvement over the standard silver anodising you might see on other aluminium surfaces.
You'll note that black has not been used as a main colour on any of them and that's specifically because black is the worst performing colour of all, by some margin.

^^^ ya, dont know what happened up there doh.gif

@Mad Catz Rich

Thanks for the great explaination, good to see you guys doing your homework. When i first followed the link and seen those pads i was like *** are those but after reading your reason i understand. Function befor form in this case. For myself i would like the largest pad as i enjoy low dpi for FPS games.

For my MMO7 im still unclear if the largest mouse pad is for sale yet. I am asking this because my mmo 7 has moved on to a better place and now in the process of RMA. If MadCatz is going to have to ship the unit back to me then seems pointless not to include (I full plan on paying for it of course-unless you can work something out for me WINKWINK) the pad this mouse is meant to be used with.... right biggrin.gif

Could you please let me know when you get a chance, id like to call MadCatz for advance RMA and have this pad included if its offered for sale.

Thanks again for that post. Nice to see reps filling in the peeps with the reason and logic to the decisions they make thumb.gif
post #2387 of 3822
Hey Mad Catz Rich... question for you.

From the website links, it says that the 7 pad (silicone) offers 1000% better performance... while the 9 (aluminum) only offers 100% better performance. Was that a typo? Is the Silicone surface THAT much better overall? (and if so, wouldn't that mean that it should be your top of the line offering?

Also, has a pricing structure been set up for these products? How much are they going to retail for?
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post #2388 of 3822
yes, how much.


That clinking noise is me throwing my money at the screen tongue.gif
post #2389 of 3822
OK... I couldn't click the links at work since my job blocks access to the GameShark website...

I see that the Pre-Order for the 7 is $39.99 and the Pre Order for the 9 is $59.99.....


Wowzers...


Well for that kind of money, I sure do hope that they work.... still I'd like a response to the 1000% vs 100% improvements listed between the silicone and the aluminum.


10X better than normal tracking surfaces..... hmmm. I just wonder how they measured such a thing (versus only double the performance with the aluminum surface)
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post #2390 of 3822
Got a question for you RAT users and the MadCatz representative..

The cable on the wired versons. Is it possible to opt for a NON braided cable. My current Logitech G5 mouse is braided and the cable is unravling and kinking and generaly sucks.
I really dont wanna go through that again with another braided cable despite the better looks over a standard rubber cable, especialy with a mouse as expensive as the RAT.
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