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post #2391 of 3818
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Originally Posted by SolarNova View Post

Got a question for you RAT users and the MadCatz representative..
The cable on the wired versons. Is it possible to opt for a NON braided cable. My current Logitech G5 mouse is braided and the cable is unravling and kinking and generaly sucks.
I really dont wanna go through that again with another braided cable despite the better looks over a standard rubber cable, especialy with a mouse as expensive as the RAT.


I used the rat for two years with the cable constantly sliding over the edge of a wood desk, and it hasn't even shown any signs of wear. I doubt you will have any problems. Braid quality varies greatly.

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Need some advice on a good mousepad for the rat 7. I will be picking one up in the next few weeks and am fairly excited since it will be my first really high end mouse. I figured since I will be shelling out this much for a mouse I want to get a good pad to go with it. Suggestions and why? Thanks everybody in advance
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post #2393 of 3818
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Need some advice on a good mousepad for the rat 7. I will be picking one up in the next few weeks and am fairly excited since it will be my first really high end mouse. I figured since I will be shelling out this much for a mouse I want to get a good pad to go with it. Suggestions and why? Thanks everybody in advance

Look up a few posts... Mad Catz Rich just posted the recommended gamepads that work best with this mouse...

They are still on Pre-order though... so no hard experience with them yet.
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@Cravinmild - the RMA department is separate from the web orders department so I don't know if they'd be able to coordinate that. Might be worth mentioning it when you send the ticket in and they can try and coordinate with each other.

@DarkFury - the performance improvements are relative to other surfaces of the same type, i.e. the 7 is 1000% better than other silicone surfaces and the 9 is 100% better than other aluminium surfaces. We measure all this using a special tool provided to us by Philips which provides us with information about how much laser power is being reflected back into the sensor - essentially a 'score'.

Most silicone surfaces that we found (and there aren't as many of these as there are other types) were providing pretty low scores overall, either because they were black or because they used translucent silicone (this is bad because it introduces a lack of predictability into the cut off height of the laser - the laser ideally wants to be measuring the same distance from sensor to surface every time). Conversely most aluminium surfaces were pretty good overall but most of them are silver in colour and that anodised red was what we found gave us the 100% advantage.

When you look at the 'scores' the 7 and 9 are actually pretty close to each other.

The overriding message for the G.L.I.D.E. range is that we've given options that cover the main types of surface that people use and made sure that no matter which one you choose you'll get superior tracking performance compared to other surfaces of the same type.
post #2395 of 3818
Hiagain.

Would like more feedback on the braided wire on the RAT 7 and RAT MMO 7.
Has any1 had any issues with it ? I.e.uncoiling ..kinking etc ? As this is my main concern.

Also ..the MMO 7 ..is the thumb rest adjustable like on the RAT 9 ..would rly like to have that adjustability ..but the RAT 9 only comes in wireless ..which i hate.
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@Mad Catz Rich,

Thanks for th explaination of those pads above....

All that being said... the aluminum versus the silicone. Is the aluminum overall score better / way better than the silicone score? Or are they close to equal?

I've had silicone pads in the past... for their durability versus regular felt covered pads. I've never used an aluminum pad. Thus is there a significant performance boost to justify the extra cost of the aluminum? Or is this more "style over function".

Thanks again for your candid opinions on the topic. We do appreciate it.
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post #2397 of 3818
There's not that much in it, scores-wise, but yes, the 9 is better - the choice between the 7 and 9 really comes down to a couple of factors one of which is personal preference, as I mentioned. I honestly prefer the feel of the 9... and I like silicone mats, so it's got to be doing something right.

Probably the main thing for people to be aware of is that the silicone surface does need a good quality desk to sit on - if that desk has imperfections, dents, is made of old wood etc. then the silicone won't cover those up, whereas the G.L.I.D.E.9, being made of solid (yet lightweight wink.gif) aluminium, does. Likewise, eat a biscuit/cookie/insert regional variation here, leave crumbs on the desk and then place the G.L.I.D.E.7 over them and you'll feel those crumbs - kind of like the princess and the pea smile.gif


@solarnova - I've got a R.A.T.7 here that is now more than two year's old and there's no fraying issues with the cord - sure it doesn't get the amount of playtime that yours might, but it's used all day and lunch times are always set aside for some L4D2 in our office. I've got a 5 at home which does see more gaming and that's equally undamaged, so take from that what you will.

The M.M.O.7's thumb rest has the thumb position adjustment of the R.A.T.7&9 but not the angle pivot, at least not officially. There's nothing stopping you from loosening the screw on that pivot point and moving it yourself though.

Interested that you hate wireless though? Any reason? If it's anything to do with input lag then forget about it - the R9 has the same 1000Hz report rate as the R7. This does mean that it goes through its rechargeable battery in around 9 hours but as there's always a second one charging in the dock then it's not a great hassle.
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Thanks again for the response Mad Catz Rich....

Any ideas when this will be officially released? (Since they are only taking pre-orders right now...)


Are we talking a month... or Christmass release?
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It's a personal thing ..i dont like the idea of having to rely on signal strength.. iv had 'cheap' wireless mouses in the past. .the sucked. .granted this was years ago and they were cheap so i cant realy hold that against the RAT 9 lol.

In the end it just my personal choice. And as you say ..you have to recharge which i would rather not have to have sitting in the back of my mind when im playing tongue.gif

I sit rather far away from my Computer and screen(42" so its kinda a neccesity)
I have my chair a good 2 meters from the screen which has the comptuer next to it.. with my keyboard on a small table beside me and my mouse mat on a hard small lightwieght non wood chopping board (odd i know, but its got the rough surface so the mouse mat grips it) which is on my lap. My chair is a very old big(but really comfy) wingback char lol hence the odd arrangments. A wireless mouse would be a good distance away form any reciever (atleast 2 meters like i said)

its hard to truely describe my setup without a pic lol But needless to say ..wireless stuff is usualy used within a foot or 2 distance of the reciever ..and i simply cant do that. That and wireless mouses tend to be a bit on the heavy side due to the battry.
Anyway i plan on getitng the RAT MMO7 probably, around the time Crysis 3 comes out and also the GTX 780 graphics card so around feburary and march. man thats gunna drain some money from my bank lol
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Just got it yesterday. I love it so far. I should probably get a better mouse pad, though...
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