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post #2461 of 3818
Shots of the packaging with everything included in the box including the box wink.gif


Here is how the mouse is protected during shipping. It did well to keep anything from moving, very solid packaging thumb.gif

Now I really didn't want to show this one, if you have small children you may want to have them leave the room right now. Cover their ears... perhaps stab themselves in the ear with a pencil so they will not hear you scream those words after seeing this.

I give you....... "THE ACCESSORYS BOX (insert angles singing here"


Honestly how did you think we would not notice the difference thinking.gif Im sorry but im going to have to go a little hard on MadCatz for this shame. I LOVED my accessorys box, it was the difference between us and them (besides the mouse). Im just ribbing ya a little cause you did take something from me that I was very fond of.


Here are a few pics of my new MMO7. Other than a few obvious changes to packaging it would appear that this MMO7 is no different than the MMO7 I had on pre order.........or is it??? If you look carefully here you will notice one small change. The screw which used to allow you to angle the thumb rest outwards has now been changed. Its flat and smooth across the top. Perhaps needle nose grippers would work for this. I personally like it swung outwards, more comfy imo.



Here is a cropped image of that section.


Other than that just a few glory shots for those thinking of purchasing this great mouse. Best mouse ever. I honestly thought to myself that if I have to go one more day using this old pos MS mouse im going to just get a gun shoot myself in the head tongue.gif

Now im off to setup my mouse and play some D3 to work it in real good thumb.gif

Edited by cravinmild - 11/8/12 at 9:57pm
post #2462 of 3818
Hey guys,

Just made an account to share some info with you all. I've owned a R.A.T. 7 since about January, and have used Danny350's Auto-Profiler since ... oh I don't know, June? Maybe July?

Side note: Danny is amazing. That software instantly makes the mouse 100x better (conservative estimate) and he is constantly updating and improving (since Cyborg/MadCatz is too lazy to give us half the features we want). No matter, Danny doesn't care, he'll fix their software for them 'cause he "goes where he pleases, and pleases where he goes". Good man, if you ever have a problem he'll actually work with you to fix whatever it happens to be. Well enough singing of his praises, long story short - If you haven't tried the Auto-Profiler, you need to. Seriously. Go download it now. No excuses. We'll wait till you get back.

Got it? Good, 'cause we're moving on! So he talked me into making an account here because we figured it'd be a good way to spread some pictures I have. On my R.A.T. one of thumb buttons had been giving me some problems for some time. Didn't know how to get to the problem to fix it, so I just dealt with it until recently when I finally decided to splurge and upgrade to the M.M.O (by the way, great decision, mouse is a whole lot better IMO, really loving the plethora of extra buttons). Once I had the M.M.O. I decided I was going to finally take apart the R.A.T. the entire way since I no longer had anything to really lose. I had already taken off the main top body piece to fix the secondary click button only a couple months after I got it. Couldn't use the warranty since some idiot "friend" slammed my mouse because he got pissed at the sensor not tracking (admittedly maybe too sensitive, but really, slamming it? How was that even going to fix anything?)

Anyways, back to the pictures. I have looked quite a bit, and even though several people on this forum alone have mentioned a desire for help getting inside their mouse; I have not found a single place that shows any disassembly instructions or even interior photos for any type of the Cyborg mice. So if you're considering taking it apart to repair, clean, or even explore, I'm putting this up for you. Getting into the palm circuitry isn't really a problem, but the thumb is. I am reasonably sure that it is impossible without "breaking" it, though as you'll see, I don't think it really affects anything. I took these pictures as I was reassembling so they might not be 100% clear, but the main objective for me was not to necessarily show how to perform every step anyway. My focus here was to show screw locations, how the pieces interconnect with one another, and to develop a starting point for any knowledge and photographs regarding the interior.


WARNING: I don't actually condone doing this and based on how it's built, I'm pretty damn sure Cyborg doesn't either. These pictures are of my personal experience and not a guide to doing it yourself. I had to literally break my mouse to take these, so if you break it [read: when you break it] I'm not responsible in anyway.

First things first; if you use it, lose it. Palm rest, pinky rest, mouse weights, I ditched it all. It actually isn't vital to get rid of, but I didn't want it in my way.
On the bottom there's three screws I had to take off.

For me to get this piece off, I had to pull up and towards myself. You can see in these two pictures how its connected, the place of note is at the front of the mouse.


These next two are just me showing what the scroll-wheel button looks like (red retangular). It's actually most similar to the left-click primary and right-click secondary buttons (the rectangular green ones) but slightly different from either the mode switch or the dpi adjustment buttons (small round black ones)


The next picture shows the piece that I had to break to get into the thumb panel. Maybe it's possible to get in by removing the circuit board and palm housing, but I have no idea since I didn't go that route. Even easier would be if I had a #00 phillips with a quick 90 degree bend, but since I don't, I just bent the thumb piece up until I could get to the screw in the front.
Protip: This plastic doesn't actually "bend" that far, thus the broken piece.


I actually don't mind though, because as far as I can determine it's only purpose is to ensure a lack of movement of the thumb piece along the x-axis. It actually doesn't even "do" that, so much as it makes sure you can't move the thumb piece too far forward along the z-axis and thereby remove the "stability rod" from its slot.

Finally, the moment you have all been waiting for. Here's the inside of the thumb housing. I actually just noticed that when I took these, the stupid thing is flipped upside down. Oops. Well if you ignore that, you can see how the buttons are once again different than the other two types. I actually hate these the most since they seem the least durable, quickly losing that tactile "clicky" feedback I personally love to have. Shame that they are actually the most used buttons aside from the primary and secondary.




Whew. That took and was a lot longer than I originally intended. But I just wanted to show you all the inside in case anyone happened to be as curious as I was, yet didn't want to risk breaking anything. Enjoy and feel free to message me if you have any questions with regards to disassembly!

Edit: I forgot to mention this earlier. If anyone takes their mouse apart and tries putting it back together, be careful with the last couple of screws (the longer two of the three I have arrows pointed at in the first picture). Those screws can actually reach the left and right click buttons and so you could inadvertently "lock" them in place if you tighten them too far. If you find you can't actually click either button, just slightly loosen the screw on that side until it returns to normal.
Edited by Veyros - 11/9/12 at 5:25am
post #2463 of 3818
I've had my RAT Contagion for a day now, and it's by far the most comfortable mouse I've ever had with the thumb and pinky grips, it just feels perfect.
Although I do have two issues with it, the sensor is so sensitive, that when I left click my cursor moves/jumps a little bit and it can be quite annoying indeed (800 DPI), that's my biggest issue, my other issue isn't much of an issue, but the thumb wheel I can't find a use for at all, the only thing I can think of is volume control but I use an external DAC/AMP so unfortunately it wouldn't work properly for me.

Other than that it's a top mouse, I hope I can get used to this sensitivity issue, this sensor just moves at the slightest vibration (clicking being the most annoying), even as I type on my keyboard the cursor jumps every so often.
Edited by eltocliousus - 11/11/12 at 2:53am
post #2464 of 3818
Try changing to a harder mousepad surface. .it might simply be that the presure of you clicking is causing the mat to deform and the sensor is picking it up.
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post #2465 of 3818
That does make sense SolarNova, I'm using a QCK Mass, quite thick indeed, it is annoying that a technically better mouse needs me to get a new mousepad, oh well.
post #2466 of 3818
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Originally Posted by eltocliousus View Post

I've had my RAT Contagion for a day now, and it's by far the most comfortable mouse I've ever had with the thumb and pinky grips, it just feels perfect.
Although I do have two issues with it, the sensor is so sensitive, that when I left click my cursor moves/jumps a little bit and it can be quite annoying indeed (800 DPI), that's my biggest issue, my other issue isn't much of an issue, but the thumb wheel I can't find a use for at all, the only thing I can think of is volume control but I use an external DAC/AMP so unfortunately it wouldn't work properly for me.
Other than that it's a top mouse, I hope I can get used to this sensitivity issue, this sensor just moves at the slightest vibration (clicking being the most annoying), even as I type on my keyboard the cursor jumps every so often.


Had the same issue. Got rid of the mouse pad and went to bare wood, went away.

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post #2467 of 3818
It seems that the mouse pad does contribute to it a little, but the biggest cause is the pinky rest, if I remove that the mouse looks to be better distributed, with that on, when I use left-click, the mouse goes forward slightly.

I've also found another issue, the thumb wheel 'sticks' every now and again, not the physical button, but when using it, sometimes it repeats the key-press until I mvoe it again, problem after problem redface.gif
post #2468 of 3818
How well does the M.M.O. 7 track on cloth mouse pads? Are they to be avoided? I picked up one of Corsair's new MM200 Wide Edition mats and thinking that was probably not the best choice if I decide to try the M.M.O. 7. Can I get some suggestions on the latest best mouse pads for the RAT/MMO mice?
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Just a few pages ago I believe it was Mad Catz Rich who recommended avoiding cloth mats. They have new mous pads specifically made for RAT mice. Check their web page.
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Just a few pages ago I believe it was Mad Catz Rich who recommended avoiding cloth mats. They have new mous pads specifically made for RAT mice. Check their web page.
It's strange because both my new and old 7's track as well on a black cloth Qck+ as anything else I've tried and black and cloth is the two worst. I'm not sure it could be between 100 and 1000% better than it is. I expect I still will try one of the new hard rat pads though.
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