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Alright so I'm still going through these 295 pages so please forgive me if I missed anything thus far ^^;

I recently bought the M.M.O 7 Rat and I'm insatiably in love with it. I've been going through mice like water these past few weeks trying to find the perfect mouse for my hands and needs. Tested the Orobouros ( horrendous w/ wireless and too buggy ) then The Roccat Kone VXD ( liked it but to big for my hands ) and then ended up w/ the MMO 7 vs the 9. The 9 felt better but 1 of the buttons seemed impossible to press unless you lifted your hand and applied force ( I"m sure it gets better ) but the MMO 7 appealed to me w/ button placement and feel. I literally had the rep @ Fry's open both boxes and I tried each.

Anywhoo so I've seen a few people have noted the issue of when you click that the cursor sometimes jumps from a few pixels to an inch, and was wondering if there were any fixes or resolutions for lowering this from happening. So far I mainly notice it happening if using a palm rest if using a standard flat mouse pad ( regardless of make ) w/o a rest it happens less or jumps less.


Anything I can do on my end for this? Or do I just have s defective model ( have no issue returning it either for a new one still withing 15 days ) Any info is greatly appreciated and Nice to meet everyone @ the same time as I signed up just to talk here lol ( been a long time forum lurker though x: )

I had this on my Razer Vespula until I switched to a CM Storm Control-RX

so maybe it's too sensitive on your mousepad
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@LunaP

that is a known issue of the Phillips Twin Eye Sensor iirc.

It should be better if you use a hard mousepad. Did you try a hard pad?
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@LunaP

that is a known issue of the Phillips Twin Eye Sensor iirc.

It should be better if you use a hard mousepad. Did you try a hard pad?


^^

 

I had the same problem, one of the reasons I sold the mouse. It got worse and worse, but still was always ok on a solid surface like my desk.

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Sorry for the late reply, and thank for all the input. I did try it back at a harder mat (forgot the name it was 15$ at fry's) looks kinda glittery but the mouse no longer shakes, I'm guessing it was due to being on a cloth surface. Well not sure what you call these Cloth w/ cushion inside for palm rest combo's was something cheap I picked up @ staples for my desk.

Mouse works great now. Only thing I'm noticing is that my grip is changing as the mouse seems wider than the ones I've been used to so I tend to find myself using 3 fingers on top vs 2 w/ 2 on the right side for a comfortable grip. I'm still adjusting it so hoping to find the best form factor that or change my holding ways I guess. Either way its an awesome mouse.

I might try one of the other brands mentioned earlier on this thread such as the madcatz cloth pad I heard that its pretty good. Any recommendations for a good wrist rest? The lil crappy 5$ ones they sell are horrible IMO, since these game pads are flat it feels good to have a rest at times.

Thanks you all for the tips though <3
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funny, I went through 2 hard pads and settled on a hybrid.../shrug

once you find a good pad that works well with the sensor, I feel like it's as good as any other (again, I'm very happy with my CM Storm Control-RX)

I bought a Corsair M65 because of how much better everyone makes the Avago sensors to be over the Phillips Twin-Eye

I returned it after an hour because it felt pretty much the same to the point where I forgot which mouse I was using (had both plugged in, went back and forth every death in BF3). But I lost out on the adjustability, the annoying blue LED up front that I can't change, and no thumb scroll wheel

So I just returned it - I'm thinking of still getting a new mouse since mine has been used since ~2009, but I don't see any good alternatives at the moment that make me want to give up the looks and features of the RAT redface.gif
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but I don't see any good alternatives at the moment that make me want to give up the looks and features of the RAT redface.gif


Lol ^^^^^^^ This exactly! It fees like the mouse is a lil bit wider than average that or the fact the back can be adjusted to curve so it feels more like a claw grip than a palm at times so its taking me sometime to get used to.
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Every rat mouse i bought ive had to put away for a month and come back to. It takes time to get use to
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I've been looking around and I think I'm just going to get another RAT to freshen up my 2-3year old one (lost count, but got it near its initial release)

the more I look/think about it, I think the gloss finishes wouldn't be too bad - my K70 has a bit of gloss to it as does the ACM for my new Creative Sound Blaster ZX

I'm just not sure on deciding between the MMO7 and the RAT7. Are there any small touches/details between the two anyone has noticed? stuff only owners would notice?

also can those "action lock" buttons be reprogrammed as extra buttons - I don't see myself playing an MMO anytime soon, so while I think the feature is cool, I don't see much use in it

I'm wondering if all the extra side buttons feel intrusive on the MMO7 compared to the RAT7. I do wish the RAT7 had more buttons just for more useable keybinds, but man they went crazy - looks really busy. does the precision aim still work intuitively with the "joystick" on the MMO7?

and I also read a few places that the clicks feel slightly more responsive on the RAT7 vs the MMO7

all above questions aside, I still think I'm leaning towards the MMO7. I game mostly fps now, but having extra buttons to keybind common actions like reload and such would be useful (as would a precision aim button again, mine stopped working)
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I'm just not sure on deciding between the MMO7 and the RAT7. Are there any small touches/details between the two anyone has noticed? stuff only owners would notice?

I played w/ both the 7, the MMO and the 9 at the store. Had the rep open each up and I messed with each for a good 10 minutes. The main addition to the MMO is the button placement mainly and the precision aim being an actual toggle switch ( Moving in 4 directions) which you won't have an issue with.

My only gripe which is kinda cleared up now is since I started using it my hand feels weird and my pinky feels naked in a way like that feeling you get if you wear glasses/sunglasses and the curve of your nose feels weird/awkward. I think I've finally customized a grip on it though.

Though the 1 main change I DID read is that you cannot adjust the back piece up/downwards on the MMO vs that on the 7/9 I haven't confirmed this but I've seen this in reviews and made mention with the others. If they had added that I think this mouse would be perfect.
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also can those "action lock" buttons be reprogrammed as extra buttons - I don't see myself playing an MMO anytime soon, so while I think the feature is cool, I don't see much use in it

Sadly no at this time though it can be useful for other things too should you find them, there haven't been statements of being able to change them either but its possible with time someone might make a modification.
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I'm wondering if all the extra side buttons feel intrusive on the MMO7 compared to the RAT7. I do wish the RAT7 had more buttons just for more useable keybinds, but man they went crazy - looks really busy. does the precision aim still work intuitively with the "joystick" on the MMO7?

actually I feel they're placed quite well IMO that is. I just need to lean my thumb in whichever direction to hit the required button. lean into the mouse for back/forward, squeeze my lower thumb in to hit the back lower button , forward part of my thumb for the front button, its curved in a way that still requires you to exert motion without accidental clickage which is nice.

I love the button on the thumb rest, just apply the left side of your thumb and lean it down for a quick easy click, I have it set as my f5 key for my normal profile mode.
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and I also read a few places that the clicks feel slightly more responsive on the RAT7 vs the MMO7

it all depends on how you adapt in. When I initially was looking I loved the clicking on the 9 vs the 7 series mainly because it felt more metallic and realistic to older (dated) mice though the lack of features pushed me @ the 7 and after a day or so it feels great other wise. Just perfecting the ergo dynamics.
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all above questions aside, I still think I'm leaning towards the MMO7. I game mostly fps now, but having extra buttons to keybind common actions like reload and such would be useful (as would a precision aim button again, mine stopped working)

Great thing about the precision aim since its 5 buttons in one, you can push it up down left right with ease at the same time not having issues with accidentally going the wrong way or pushing in that way you don't have to release your finger from it to hit another button if you've already assigned to the others you can just push up down left or right to equip,change,reload, and others.

Hope that helps <3
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^^thanks

after thinking it over the past few days...I'm not seeing much value in ordering a new one right now. I think I'll just pass and maybe pick one up on an off day from a local store (if they have one in gloss black) when I have some spare cash - otherwise I can live with a non-working sniper button - my aim is good enough without it tongue.gif
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