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I don't know if there's the Z-axis issue (even if i read that it has been corrected with the itroduction of the dynamic DPI aka accelleration)...i'm now using it on a wooden desk

Yeah that's the only issue with PTE mice. It's good you're using it on a hard surface. They're tolerable even without DPI scaling on hard mats as long as lifting off doenst move your cursor too much like in an FPS. I don't mind using a PTE myself as long as it's on a hard gaming mat, but DPI scaling is a no-no. It disallows accurate minor corrections because there is heavy deceleration at near zero movement speeds, although it mostly eliminates mouse movement when clicking, on cloth pads. If I had to get a PTE mouse I'd get an original Mamba with firmware 1.06 or lower.
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Yeah that's the only issue with PTE mice. It's good you're using it on a hard surface. They're tolerable even without DPI scaling on hard mats as long as lifting off doenst move your cursor too much like in an FPS. I don't mind using a PTE myself as long as it's on a hard gaming mat, but DPI scaling is a no-no. It disallows accurate minor corrections because there is heavy deceleration at near zero movement speeds, although it mostly eliminates mouse movement when clicking, on cloth pads. If I had to get a PTE mouse I'd get an original Mamba with firmware 1.06 or lower.

i'm using it on the desk becuse it doesn't work on my old self-made glass mat I used with the g700.
I should buy a hard mat for this mouse, maybe the manticor? is it a good choice?

about the D. scaling, i feel the deceleration, but I am honestly finding this a total non-issue. I can adjust the cursor near the target easier even with slightly higher DPI, and keep the turning movement fast. If you are used to 1:1 optical sensor, it is a thing you should get accustomed to, so it do not feel right. but I think it has his benefits.
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i'm using it on the desk becuse it doesn't work on my old self-made glass mat I used with the g700.
I should buy a hard mat for this mouse, maybe the manticor? is it a good choice?

about the D. scaling, i feel the deceleration, but I am honestly finding this a total non-issue. I can adjust the cursor near the target easier even with slightly higher DPI, and keep the turning movement fast. If you are used to 1:1 optical sensor, it is a thing you should get accustomed to, so it do not feel right. but I think it has his benefits.

Try the Corsair MM400. Much cheaper and absolutely excellent mat.

I would think that decreasing and not increasing the DPI would make the scaling almost nonexistent, depending on how low the real DPI actually shifts to when you move the mouse very slowly. If I had a PTE and had to live with DPI scaling, I would try playing on 400 DPI. I haven't had a chance to test this theory on a mouse that implements scaling like this...something to try. Always wondered about that. This is because since the DPI has to lower, the difference between the minimum the DPI lowers to and the DPI you're using would be a lot less, meaning less deceleration so that would be less jarring. Just a theory. Anyone ever tried this?
Edited by metal571 - 3/1/14 at 7:27pm
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Try the Corsair MM400. Much cheaper and absolutely excellent mat.

I would think that decreasing and not increasing the DPI would make the scaling almost nonexistent, depending on how low the real DPI actually shifts to when you move the mouse very slowly. If I had a PTE and had to live with DPI scaling, I would try playing on 400 DPI. I haven't had a chance to test this theory on a mouse that implements scaling like this...something to try. Always wondered about that. This is because since the DPI has to lower, the difference between the minimum the DPI lowers to and the DPI you're using would be a lot less, meaning less deceleration so that would be less jarring. Just a theory. Anyone ever tried this?

the mm400 is 25euro, the manticor is 35 euro ...I get aluminium for 10euro more....it's still the mm400 a better deal?
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the mm400 is 25euro, the manticor is 35 euro ...I get aluminium for 10euro more....it's still the mm400 a better deal?

Do you absolutely need aluminum? I've never used an aluminum pad, so there's a gap here in knowledge on my end. Razer always overprices their stuff... take a look and see how much the Mionix Ensis 320 is. Good mat.
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Do you absolutely need aluminum? I've never used an aluminum pad, so there's a gap here in knowledge on my end. Razer always overprices their stuff... take a look and see how much the Mionix Ensis 320 is. Good mat.

I really do not know if I need aluminium!! I thought that plastic wear off easier than alu. maybe it's not true!

ensis 320 does not exist on their site, there is the luna ensis 320 40€+10 shipping...

I think the manticor 35euro shipped from amazon is still the deal
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I really do not know if I need aluminium!! I thought that plastic wear off easier than alu. maybe it's not true!

ensis 320 does not exist on their site, there is the luna ensis 320 40€+10 shipping...

I think the manticor 35euro shipped from amazon is still the deal

Yeah, if you have the cash on hand that might just be the better deal. Yeah you're right aluminum pads pretty much last forever AFAIK. The MM400 is particularly resilient though to wear, unlike a lot of hard mats. It lasts quite a while and I personally know just how awesomely it tracks (like NO jitter at all) because I used to have one before I gave it to my ex so she could use it with her Sensei
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Yeah, if you have the cash on hand that might just be the better deal. Yeah you're right aluminum pads pretty much last forever AFAIK. The MM400 is particularly resilient though to wear, unlike a lot of hard mats. It lasts quite a while and I personally know just how awesomely it tracks (like NO jitter at all) because I used to have one before I gave it to my ex so she could use it with her Sensei

tomorrow I'll go to the local store to see If they have some good hard mat...

I'm gonna buy a DA2013/naos 7000 too, the naos comes with the 32cm long cloth mat, just in case I buy the DA2013 which cloth mat should I buy? i think I want it at least 40cm long
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tomorrow I'll go to the local store to see If they have some good hard mat...

I'm gonna buy a DA2013/naos 7000 too, the naos comes with the 32cm long cloth mat, just in case I buy the DA2013 which cloth mat should I buy? i think I want it at least 40cm long

QcK Heavy is kind of a perfect starter gaming mousepad if you haven't had one before.
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QcK Heavy is kind of a perfect starter gaming mousepad if you haven't had one before.

thanks!
is it true that it wears out superfast? (cloth mats in general?)
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