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Originally Posted by metal571 View Post

What it does is reduce the DPI when the mouse is moving very slowly. This is because the less sensitive the sensor is at low speed, the less likely your mouse is to deviate more than only a couple of counts when lifting the mouse or when clicking while using the mouse on a soft surface. Try it, the higher the DPI you are using, the more the Z axis problem is exacerbated because the mouse will pick up more counts per inch of you lifting the mouse off or clicking and the mouse tracking up and to the left from pushing the sensor into the surface. The latter I guess you could call the reverse z axis problem? Yeah.

I was ironic biggrin.gif

actually the problem does not bother who uses high dpi because doesn't lift off the mouse
when I played with low dpi I didn't get the problem, or at least it was so small that I wasn't affected
post #3242 of 3818
With the strike 7 mouse pad even 800 dpi does not allow me to run out of mat. Works flawless with the mat also. I had futureshop price match an online price i found- under $18 with tax biggrin.gif
post #3243 of 3818
OK, I searched this thread like crazy but I just had to register to ask this question. oneeyedsmiley02.png

Ordered my RAT 7 yesterday. Yes, smart, buy first, ask later. frown.gif Mostly did so because my third(!) G9X suffered a broken cable... (again).

Question: The "z-axis" issue seems to be 'solved' with the new Twin-Eye (2033?) and the modification Saitek did on the mouse, now, how can I check if I got the new refresh version? And don't say "You'll have no z-axis issue!" Can I check up a S/N or did thye do something visibly to the mouse I can check on?

Oh and another question, I'm used to playing Quake Live on a low sens and 800DPI. The lower the DPI the lesser the z-axis problem, is that correct?
post #3244 of 3818
my two cents about the RAT7, considering that I bought the MMO7 and it is lighter than the RAT:

they are not suited if you want to play fps with low sens, they are too heavy to be lifted


I am now testig the MMO7 and the deathadder, both using low sensivity(1800dpi the mouse, 5 for sensivity in crysis3, that should be around 500dpi), and the deathadder is more comfortable for the task.

It seems i'm not bothered with the Z-axis bug(I lift the mouse only to turn when I am not fighting), and I enjoy the slight acceleration, so for me the only drawback is the weight and grip(very good but slightly worse than DA's).
I'll keep the MMO7 because i love it, so many buttons,comfortable, quite accurate, I would use it over the DA for every task exept for "serious" low sens fps gaming.


About the "version", you should have the new sensor (less Z-axis bug + dynamic DPI) because it's been on the market for quite a while. it seems the issue has not being totally fixed
Edited by Blashyrkh - 3/4/14 at 6:15am
post #3245 of 3818
Thanks for the reply!
For me personally the weight is more a pro than a con... I start feeling comfortable 130g upwards.

A bit insecure about all the moaning because of that issue.
post #3246 of 3818
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Originally Posted by paperwings View Post

OK, I searched this thread like crazy but I just had to register to ask this question. oneeyedsmiley02.png

Ordered my RAT 7 yesterday. Yes, smart, buy first, ask later. frown.gif Mostly did so because my third(!) G9X suffered a broken cable... (again).

Question: The "z-axis" issue seems to be 'solved' with the new Twin-Eye (2033?) and the modification Saitek did on the mouse, now, how can I check if I got the new refresh version? And don't say "You'll have no z-axis issue!" Can I check up a S/N or did thye do something visibly to the mouse I can check on?

Oh and another question, I'm used to playing Quake Live on a low sens and 800DPI. The lower the DPI the lesser the z-axis problem, is that correct?

Philips has never corrected the z-axis bug. It's less now because of DPI scaling, but it's a flaw in the sensor itself. As for using it for FPS gaming, I honestly couldn't see how that would be possible. I'm sure there are people that play twitch FPS with the RAT, but there's no way I could play Quake with a mouse that weighs as much as a mid sized rock. There are so many choices that are better than the RAT for those purposes. Also, using the RAT on a lower sense means you're going to be lifting more, and in Quake you'll be trying to aim during those movements. The Z-Axis bug will drive you to drink.
post #3247 of 3818
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Also, using the RAT on a lower sense means you're going to be lifting more, and in Quake you'll be trying to aim during those movements.

lifting while aiming???
post #3248 of 3818
To answer a couple of random questions, yeah the Z axis problem is lesser on lower DPI and also I'm pretty sure there should be no acceleration on the PTE. That's an Avago/Pixart sensor issue.
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post #3249 of 3818
Hey guys, never posted in here but have had a RAT 5 for quite some time now...

Problem is its getting a little long in the tooth after 3-4 years of constant use and starting to fall apart on me. Im looking to getting another RAT but like the white ones they have,

What do you guys think of them?
    
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post #3250 of 3818
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lifting while aiming???

In frantic FPS games I lift a lot and just get caught lifting at a bad time.
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