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post #3261 of 3834
hmm so its the black one then lol, White is awesome but only if its matte sadly

Thanks guys. I wonder if I could buy the white interchangeable parts and put them on the black one? That would be neat lol

Speaking of which, I cant find spare parts or broken rat mouse anywhere....what gives? The link in the OP isnt valid anymore
Edited by TheReciever - 3/5/14 at 2:16pm
    
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hmm so its the black one then lol, White is awesome but only if its matte sadly

Thanks guys. I wonder if I could buy the white interchangeable parts and put them on the black one? That would be neat lol

Speaking of which, I cant find spare parts or broken rat mouse anywhere....what gives? The link in the OP isnt valid anymore

Only spare parts I saw is for the feets.
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Philips has never corrected the z-axis bug. It's less now because of DPI scaling, but it's a flaw in the sensor itself. As for using it for FPS gaming, I honestly couldn't see how that would be possible. I'm sure there are people that play twitch FPS with the RAT, but there's no way I could play Quake with a mouse that weighs as much as a mid sized rock. There are so many choices that are better than the RAT for those purposes. Also, using the RAT on a lower sense means you're going to be lifting more, and in Quake you'll be trying to aim during those movements. The Z-Axis bug will drive you to drink.

After testing the RAT I guess I have to confirm that. FPS-wise not sensor-wise.
It's not the weight that is the problem with the RAT 7 - not even while lifting. It's more the low-sens button placement and the side where you place your thumb. It doesn't feel "solid". If you claw-grip that thing in harsh maneuvers, which is pretty standard in Quake it feels like the mouse-parts move. Maybe it was not suited for my hands.
For MMOs and more "relaxed" games, I could pretty easily imagine it is the best mouse there is...

By the way, z-axis and Quake Live. I had no problem at all. Movement, aim, jumps... everything spot on. My specs for people who are interested. Tested was the RAT 7 in white.

800DPI
Ingame sens: 1.16
No accel
Windows default.
worthless information about your mouse: 44cm/17inches for 360°

Now testing the KONE+ and the Zowie FK... seems to be an unfair fight. The KONE just dies(!) with every second fast movement on my QcK Heavy. I go fast right, the mouse cripples upwards-rightish. It's annoying. Either the sensor is rubbish, or it just doesn't like my pad.
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After testing the RAT I guess I have to confirm that. FPS-wise not sensor-wise.
It's not the weight that is the problem with the RAT 7 - not even while lifting. It's more the low-sens button placement and the side where you place your thumb. It doesn't feel "solid". If you claw-grip that thing in harsh maneuvers, which is pretty standard in Quake it feels like the mouse-parts move. Maybe it was not suited for my hands.
For MMOs and more "relaxed" games, I could pretty easily imagine it is the best mouse there is...


About the low-sens button, I found that the 2 button in front the thumb is more harder to press then the others, has to be press more to the down side of the button. The filling that mouse-parts moves may be is because they loosed the thumb rest angle nob and is replace with a screw. It's the only thing that hold it. You need another toll for to adjust it.
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About the low-sens button, I found that the 2 button in front the thumb is more harder to press then the others, has to be press more to the down side of the button. The filling that mouse-parts moves may be is because they loosed the thumb rest angle nob and is replace with a screw. It's the only thing that hold it. You need another toll for to adjust it.

actually I found out that button 2 can be pressed from both the sides separated by the line....
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actually I found out that button 2 can be pressed from both the sides separated by the line....

I mean is more hard to respond when you press it in the upper part of the side closed to the thumb, then the lower part closed to the thumb. I noticed that when was doing the test in mad catz soft. I don't fill that I have pres it . No good feed back as the rest of the thumb buttons.
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I mean is more hard to respond when you press it in the upper part of the side closed to the thumb, then the lower part closed to the thumb. I noticed that when was doing the test in mad catz soft. I don't fill that I have pres it . No good feed back as the rest of the thumb buttons.

I see what you mean, that's right.
but I have never pressed it in the upper part just because there is the forward button above it that is quite near. so I keep pressing it in the lower part
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I can't say where exactly I pres the button, I'm at work at the moment. But I think it is more to the middle but still could not get good feedback.
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then, today I used again my MMO7 to compare it to the DA 2013 (after 5 days of intense use), these are my conclusions:



-DA more comfrotable for shape and weight
-MMO7 better for the number of buttons, I bind some mouse buttons for nanovision, granade, crouch and reloading, to keep my right and on the WASD

now about sensor precision, I used 1400dpi with 5 of accel. in Crysis 3 that's about 400dpi(30cm for a 360), maybe less,I lift frequently.

-first of all, absolutely no Z-axis issue, even at higher DPI settings.
-I can aim better with the MMO7

I came to the conclusion that FOR ME the acceleration issue is bull****, I can aim flawlessly while still turning faster and put the cursor on the enemy with less mouse movement with the same precision I have while using the DA with no acceleration.

acceleration is all about get used to, my final experiment will be the use of accel. with the DA
Edited by Blashyrkh - 3/6/14 at 1:06pm
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I think I will be sanding and repainting my mouse to hold me over until the Cougar offerings come out
    
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