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post #3671 of 3834
If I buy a RAT TE, can I use pieces from my MMO7, like the back parts, or the pinkyrest?
post #3672 of 3834
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Originally Posted by el-jorge View Post

If I buy a RAT TE, can I use pieces from my MMO7, like the back parts, or the pinkyrest?

yup

you will have to take out one small screw that stops the palm rest from coming off, then bend the frame a bit to wiggle it off. Since the frame is plastic (to save weight), it's not as bad as it sounds

using RAT7 parts on my TE and couldn't be happier - lighter, better sensor firmware, and still get the adjust ability I need
post #3673 of 3834
My second R.A.T. 9 is failing now, after a year and a few months. Has tracking issues on my black mouse pad that I've been using since the start. Last time this happened, it was only a matter of weeks before it just died completely. I have 3 years full warranty coverage on it so I can swap it. But these mice seem to have lasers that consistently fail. A R.A.T. 7 I had bought for my dad also died like this after a year and a half. Just ordered the R.A.T. Pro X. Hopefully the 8200DPI laser in that won't be problematic. And worst case scenario...it'll just require a laser swap out should it ever fail. The mouse looks great...and is great in the hands. So I can't give up on it. Despite having more problems with it than any mouse I've ever owned before.
post #3674 of 3834
Been using a RAT 7 I bought second-hand (no accessories) for about a week now and I love it...
I was going to order the 9 but was put off by a few posts that suggested there may a few issues...

Having big hands, I thought the ability to modify the Cyborg length by moving the palm rest and the width by adding the thumb and pinky rests would result in a more comfortable grip but even if it didn't I still love the overall design so it was worth a gamble on a second hand one....

I didn't fully appreciate the ability to change the mouses weight until I realised the mouse pad is the deciding factor... With a cloth covered mouse pad I don't use any weights but with a plastic pad I do... It's really down to friction...

Being able to change the DPI setting is crucial with higher resolution monitors, I'm running 2560x1440 so tend to use the highest setting all of the time...

Moving the palm rest back is of some benefit but as I have large hands it never reaches my palm forcing me to adapt a modified craw grip that is a little more comfortable than when it is set shorter...

I love the little left/right scroll wheel, it comes in very handy when working in Wings 3D for left, right movement which I use a lot...

Strangely enough I haven't tested it in games yet but that's for another day...
Mike
post #3675 of 3834
Just arrived. And it's oh so pretty....And the ceramic feet on it are just amazing. Glides like crazy. Although since I only use aluminum mouse pads, I wonder if that'll cause an issue down the road. Regardless...sensor swapping in this thing is easy as hell. Would take like 5 seconds. Only complaint I have is that it now only supports 3 different DPI settings, as opposed to 4. And as a result, they've removed the option to go up/down. It's a one button that just cycles through them.

Also one area of concern....the scroll wheel. Very neat design. Solid click per rotation. No half-way rotations. But...it's also only latched down at a single side point (not central), which means more stress on it than there should be. And unfortunately that is not one of the parts that can be swapped out. So it may be problematic later on.

Another issue is with the way the mouse back/forward buttons work. Since that piece is replaceable, they've designed it so there are little plastic feet that fit into/push the actual button on the main body. However...as it is plastic and only secured with 1 screw, you end up with a situation where the amount of force required to activate the forward button and back button differ. And in fact, one of them is very soft, while the other has a loud and crisp click sound. For all I know though, this could be part of the design. But it seems odd..

Another oddity...for something heralded as the world's most customizable mouse, it's missing yet another set of customizations that were available in the RAT 7/9. Weight adjustment. There is no way to adjust the weight of the device. I'm pretty ok with where the weight is. But I wouldn't have minded it being a tad heavier.

Due to these things being sold out everywhere, I was only able to get my hands on the PIXART ADNS-9800 sensor. I'll have to game with it some more before determining how I feel about it. But as far as tracking goes, this sensor does work well on a surface than my old RAT9 with the 6200dpi phillips twin-eye sensor had trouble with. When the 8200DPI Philips twin-eye module is available, I'll be picking that up as well.

I really do like how easy it is to swap out sensors. And overall I'm happy with the mouse. But I definitely get the feeling that the customizations that are missing right now will be added/addressed in a 2nd generation model.







post #3676 of 3834
Does it come in any other colours, Like just black? How many sensors come with it? How much did it cost?
As for the buttons, it's really odd that one is nice and clicky but the other isn't. Be sure to let us know how it goes over a few months.
I don't suppose there is a wireless version?
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post #3677 of 3834
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Does it come in any other colours, Like just black? How many sensors come with it? How much did it cost?
As for the buttons, it's really odd that one is nice and clicky but the other isn't. Be sure to let us know how it goes over a few months.
I don't suppose there is a wireless version?

No wireless option. I've been using a RAT9 for a few years (both first gen and second gen). There are black replacements for the palm rest. But the other green accents will remain. It only comes with one sensor. But additional sensors are only $25, which is great for future upgrades. I got a good deal on it. Paid $180 USD after taxes.

I should add that I just discovered the scroll wheel sensitivity adjustment option. I loosened it up. And I actually like it more. Scrolling is smooth (no clicking). But for gaming where you use the scroll wheel to change weapons/do other things, you'll want to tighten it up for that nice reassuring click per scroll.
post #3678 of 3834
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No wireless option. I've been using a RAT9 for a few years (both first gen and second gen). There are black replacements for the palm rest. But the other green accents will remain. It only comes with one sensor. But additional sensors are only $25, which is great for future upgrades. I got a good deal on it. Paid $180 USD after taxes.

I should add that I just discovered the scroll wheel sensitivity adjustment option. I loosened it up. And I actually like it more. Scrolling is smooth (no clicking). But for gaming where you use the scroll wheel to change weapons/do other things, you'll want to tighten it up for that nice reassuring click per scroll.
That's way too high a price for a wired mouse. Think I'll stick with what I have.
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post #3679 of 3834
For anyone who may be curious...I'm sending the mouse back for replacement. The different feel between the back/forward button appears to be a faulty switch. It's softer, and requires less force to click, but requires more movement to activate. So I've talked to the seller already and am going to RMA it.

After a few days of testing...there are both good and bad things to say about it. Previously I used the first gen RAT 9 and then the second gen RAT 9. Both used the Philips twin-eye sensor. I never realized how much better of a sensor the twin-eye is if you're a lift-drop mouse user. While the adjustable lift height on the ADNS-9800 sensor has a wider range, it actually doesn't work as well as the twin-eye. There is more unintended movement during the lift/set down action. Fortunately, sensors on this mouse can be swapped out in about 5 seconds, and new sensors such as the upgraded 8200 DPI Philips Twin-Eye are only $25. UNFORTUNATELY, they do not currently have that sensor available for sale. So. tongue.gif

I also am still surprised that there is no option for adjusting the weight of the mouse. For something called the world's most adjustable/configurable mouse, missing such a basic feature is unfortunate. I've mostly gotten used to it. But over the years I've grown accustomed to slightly heavier mice and the change in friction it causes for both gliding and stopping. But I am very happy with it nonetheless. Just going to make sure I order the Philips sensor as soon as it's available.

Since the mouse comes with 3 different sensors, you should be aware of which model you buy. They're all identical except for the sensor that comes included in the box. I'd recommend the Philips Twin-Eye model, especially if you're already used to the RAT 7/RAT 9 mice.
post #3680 of 3834
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DAMN that's one sexy looking piece.

Didn't know it was already available for purchase, must keep an eye out for it on Ebay yessir.gif .
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