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How did you go about asking for money? Or was he just willing to give you some of it when you were done?

When I have charged (which I've only done a couple of times to people I don't particularly like) I tell them up front, "Sure, I'll look at it, but it will cost you $20 an hour." They usually laugh at first, then I tell them I'm serious and they are like, "Oh, OK..." Then when they hum and hull around I tell them that the Geek Squad charges about $60 an hour and they have to take their computer in. I can do it in home. This usually gets them to agree.

It agravates me that people think that IT stuff should be free! Heck, I have a close friend that is a mechanic, works on my cars for me and always tries to not charge me. I refuse, I figure if he takes his time to help me, that's time he could have been working on a paying customer's stuff or doing something else, so I'll toss him some cash (and usually a 12 pack of beer). I just don't feel right taking people's time for nothing. But man, everyone is ready to take mine without wanting to cough up any cash. It really ticks me off.

ok, /rant.
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How did you go about asking for money? Or was he just willing to give you some of it when you were done?
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When I have charged (which I've only done a couple of times to people I don't particularly like) I tell them up front, "Sure, I'll look at it, but it will cost you $20 an hour." They usually laugh at first, then I tell them I'm serious and they are like, "Oh, OK..." Then when they hum and hull around I tell them that the Geek Squad charges about $60 an hour and they have to take their computer in. I can do it in home. This usually gets them to agree.
It agravates me that people think that IT stuff should be free! Heck, I have a close friend that is a mechanic, works on my cars for me and always tries to not charge me. I refuse, I figure if he takes his time to help me, that's time he could have been working on a paying customer's stuff or doing something else, so I'll toss him some cash (and usually a 12 pack of beer). I just don't feel right taking people's time for nothing. But man, everyone is ready to take mine without wanting to cough up any cash. It really ticks me off.
ok, /rant.

Wow that's funny Wonder...I charge $60 an hour too...I guess the benefits of choosing me over the squad would be the one on one service I give, a personalized preventative future proofing plan write up (customers love this), and the fact that I come to you, no matter what the situation. I also charge extra fees for different situations (like if the comp has to come home with me), theirs usually a "storage fee charge", or if I have to outsource to someone else (rare but it happens). Hey as soon as I plug your comp in at my home, up goes my electric bill. Emergency house calls are often and additional $100 and If you want me to just "take a look" its $45. Not many people understand how expensive it is to try and run your own custom computer build / repair company. You guys here on OCN are the only ones that get it. My time isn't free, nor is my knowledge. Except maybe here on this forum! biggrin.gif

Of course I used the term friend very loosely in my last post _zero, he is more like a friend of the family, my girlfriends family. I let my girl handle the money situation, I felt weird about asking them on the count of the cloud of awkwardness that was lingering the entire day, (long story).
Edited by Vidia-King - 6/13/12 at 6:21am
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Wow that's funny Wonder...I charge $60 an hour too...I guess the benefits of choosing me over the squad would be the one on one service I give, a personalized preventative future proofing plan write up (customers love this), and the fact that I come to you, no matter what the situation. I also charge extra fees for different situations (like if the comp has to come home with me), theirs usually a "storage fee charge", or if I have to outsource to someone else (rare but it happens). Hey as soon as I plug your comp in at my home, up goes my electric bill. Emergency house calls are often and additional $100 and If you want me to just "take a look" its $45. Not many people understand how expensive it is to try and run your own custom computer build / repair company. You guys here on OCN are the only ones that get it. My time isn't free, nor is my knowledge. Except maybe here on this forum! biggrin.gif
Of course I used the term friend very loosely in my last post _zero, he is more like a friend of the family, my girlfriends family. I let my girl handle the money situation, I felt weird about asking them on the count of the cloud of awkwardness that was lingering the entire day, (long story).

Hey, I get that, you are doing it as a business, I'm not. I just charge people I don't like because I don't want them to just call me all the time. For my friends and family (that I do like) I never charge. I'm just doing it as a favor, which has its own form of payment ! wink.gif But yeah, if I was trying to have a business of doing it, I'd charge like you.

Basically, what I've found, my family that I don't like (my mom is the second youngest of 11 kids, so there are over 200 people in my family, just on her side, so there are a few I don't like) I charge, for those I do like, I do it for free. This keeps the ones I don't like from calling me all the time and those I do like, it gives me a change to hang out with them while I work on their stuff. And usually I'll get a good meal or drink out of it, so I'm happy.

Honestly, my most frequent customer is my wife's grandmother! God love her, she's the sweetest woman ever, but a 77 year old woman who uses a computer every day is a scary thing! She's actually pretty handy with one (she's made it a point to learn) but she's funny when she calls me. Anyway, one day I'll figure out how to set up a remote desktop and then I can just fix things from home, but until then, I'll go over, work on her system and she always makes me a really great meal and she keeps the beer I like (Yuengling Premium) in her fridge just for me, so it's all good!
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I've helped a few people with PC problems and viruses. So far the only thing I've gotten is a $25 Chili's gift card. rolleyes.gif (and that was just for figuring out how to remove Heroes of Might and Magic)
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Hey Wonder, your leading in Cat3! Nice! The competition seems to be pretty tough in your category.

Some folding news I guess...I updated my sig with my EOC page and the TC stat page! Also, I was wondering if I really need an HFM? What are the benefits of me having one? Doesn't having an EOC, team OCN tracking, and Stamford tracking give us enough coverage? Does using HFM on my folding rig decrease my TPF? Just wondering...

~edit~ $25 covers a dinner for two at Chili's Krusher33, time well spent imo. smile.gif
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Hey Wonder, your leading in Cat3! Nice! The competition seems to be pretty tough in your category.
Some folding news I guess...I updated my sig with my EOC page and the TC stat page! Also, I was wondering if I really need an HFM? What are the benefits of me having one? Doesn't having an EOC, team OCN tracking, and Stamford tracking give us enough coverage? Does using HFM on my folding rig decrease my TPF? Just wondering...
~edit~ $25 covers a dinner for two at Chili's Krusher33, time well spent imo. smile.gif

Thanks, sir! Yeah, I have been bouncing between first and third, as all three of us are so close that it just depends on when the update falls. This has actually been the story of my life for the last few months of the TC. I finish second in both March and April, but had the TC gone on for 12 more hours, I would have finished 1st both months!

As for HFM, it will not affect your GPU folding at all (so it won't hurt your TC points). As for your CPU, I'm not sure, I've always run it on it on an old Pentium 4 rig that isn't worth folding (too much power, not enough PPD). I can't imagine it causes that much loss of PPD as so many people run it. I'll tell you what, though, I'm currious, so I'll make a thread and we'll see what the masses can tell us!

EDIT:

HERE is the thread, lets see what the folding masses on OCN have to say!

EDIT 2:

Check out that thread, basically, what people are saying is that they have seen no PPD difference between running it on their machine (locally) or on a separate machine (remote). I've always just run it remotely because I have nothing else to do with the old Gateway, but I do keep it around because it is great for ripping movies to my iPhone. Anyhow, hope that helps!!

EDIT 3:

Something for all of us...You Know You're Addicted to Folding When...
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The absolute minimum is beer for work - seems to help at work work if you've got a favor you want someone to do for you (unless they don't drink, but most electricians do...)

The only people that get off for "free" are immediate family. It's like paying yourself to not dig a huge hole and crawl in...

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Dang! Prymus and I were neck and neck for a little bit. looks like he got me.
 
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Dang! Prymus and I were neck and neck for a little bit. looks like he got me.

Only by less than 2K, you're still in the game!

Also, outside the trouble our i7 folders have had this month, we are actually doing AWESOME!! Right now we have first in Wildcard and Cat3, second in nVidia and 3rd in AMD!!! That is really awesome, team, very nicely done.

Also, both Chuck and kubed have their rigs back together, Chuck has a 6903 in process and kubed is almost back to folding, so we should turn out pretty well this month, and with any luck, we should have a nice showing next month!! Keep it up, team! thumb.gif
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So I got the 3570k rig together last night, realized that I forgot to pick up a wireless card so I might have to go to Microcenter tonight to get one, but it is up and running, installed Ubuntu 10.10 for now, don't want to really set it up just yet as I'm going to be doing a lot of changing up of my rigs over the next few weeks, but here is what it has now...


I'll try to take some pictures tonight and post up here. For now it won't be OCed (waiting until after I do all my parts swapping). I'm eager to see what a 3570k can do and I've read great things about the Sabertooth board, so it should be fun to play with! More updates once I get it up and running.
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Only by less than 2K, you're still in the game!
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Agreed... Thats only one WU. What is your OC? Maybe try to bump it another 20-30 MHz.
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