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Yeah, the only two RWDs I've owned were an '89 Chevy S10 regular cab with a full bed and a '91 Chevy S10 Blazer. I had all weather tires on both (as I do on all my cars living in Cincy) and while both were exciting to drive in the snow, I have to say, I've preferred the two Civics I've owned for driving in snow. I never had any control issues in the Civics no matter what the weather conditions were.

And while I do like getting to go play in a RWD car, I don't like having to fight over steer on my 26 mile (each way) commute to work, which was the case with both the RWDs I had. Given, neither of them were good cars, and the tires were far from optimal, but my Civics weren’t great cars either, and I’ve been running the same tires (Kumho Ecastas ASTs) on every car I’ve owned. They are a great cheap tire that wears well and they handle pretty good in all weather conditions. Besides the road noise (which I’m not going to lie, is LOUD), I’ve never had a problem with these tires. On my Civics (a 2001 LX that had a few modifications and a 2008 Si that was stock), the cars did great in the snow and handled exactly as I wanted them to.

For both Civics, I did keep a set of summer tires, Falken Ziex 912s, so the Kumhos were only for winter on those cars, but I’ve run them year round on all the other cars I’ve owned.

The Si did produce a bit of over steer when the road was slick, but it was predictable and never like my either of my Chevys (my truck actually did a complete 180 pulling away from a stop light with just a light dusting of snow, but that was partially driver error, as it was just 2 months after I got my license).

Honestly, though, like with anything RWD vs. FWD vs. AWD is a preference. I like my little rice runners, so I’m going to be a FWD fan for life. Others, like you, u3b3r, or my friend Ryan (who is a Mustang guy through and through) are going to favor RWD. I don’t think there is anything wrong with either, I just prefer FWD (honestly, I just prefer Civics, but hey, I’m a Honda guy!). With that said, my 3 isn’t a bad car either, I’m really loving the handling in that so far (not as good as the Si, but pretty close).

Also, I wanted to say, that is an awesome video and I’d love the chance to do something like that!
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I've moved away from "all weather" tires. After switching to the alternatives - Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Specs for summer, Nokian hakkapeliittas for winter now (either Direzza ZII or Pilot Super Sports for the E60 for summer), every time I go back to all season I'm disappointed.

If you end up looking for a different summer tire, I'd highly recommend you try out the Dunlop ZIIs (unless you can find Z1s for cheaper on closeout), or the BFG Rivals. they both come in smaller car (14" rim and up) friendly sizes, and are not terribly expensive.
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Also, I wanted to say, that is an awesome video and I’d love the chance to do something like that!

If you ever make it out to WI in Jan/Feb and it's cold enough (i.e. the ice is thick enough), drop me a line and I'll make it happen.
 
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I've moved away from "all weather" tires. After switching to the alternatives - Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Specs for summer, Nokian hakkapeliittas for winter now (either Direzza ZII or Pilot Super Sports for the E60 for summer), every time I go back to all season I'm disappointed.

If you end up looking for a different summer tire, I'd highly recommend you try out the Dunlop ZIIs (unless you can find Z1s for cheaper on closeout), or the BFG Rivals. they both come in smaller car (14" rim and up) friendly sizes, and are not terribly expensive.
If you ever make it out to WI in Jan/Feb and it's cold enough (i.e. the ice is thick enough), drop me a line and I'll make it happen.

Yeah, I just got sick of swapping tires every 6 months when I owned my LX. I only had the Si for a year, so I only swapped the tires on it once, but with the LX, I had it for 9 years, and just got tired of storing an extra set of tires (and now I just don’t have any place to keep them) and then swapping them. Also, with Cincy’s crazy weather, we could have snow one week and 80F the next (that happened twice this year), so I like to stick with all weathers. However, if I do ever get another Si, I will look into the Dunlops for summer. That was one car that didn’t really like the all weathers (the handling was so tight I could break the all weathers loose in a turn, in dry weather, pretty easily). But for all my other cars, All weathers have worked fine.

As for the trip to WI, if I ever make it that way, you’ll know beforehand and we can try to set something up!

As for a little bit of that, I’m considering trying to enter some autocross races this year with the 3. I haven’t looked at the SCCA regs in a few years, but they used to have an “All Stock” category where the only thing you could do was tires and a drop in air filter. If they still have something like that, I might try it out. Pick up a set of cheap rims and put some good sticky rubber on them and just use them for track days. I don’t know, though, like I said, I don’t have any place to store extra rubber right now, but I could go for wearing out the set of Firestones that are on there now…
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I've played at a few auto-x events with my 3. I'm not competitive, but there are lots of similarly classed cars that out-perform the e30 (that, and I'm sure the driver has something to do with it). I mostly do it for fun. I've taken to buying a different set of wheels for each set of tires - makes it easy to move them back and forth. It takes me no more than an hour. sure, I'd like to not do it, but i'd rather not be on meh tires more than I'd rather not swap them, so I do the latter.

It's also technically safer. stopping distances on snow are superior with winter rubber over all-seasons, as are summer tires in the summer. I know for a fact that in a few instances, I would've rear-ended someone had I not had on hi-perf summer tires. Not my proudest moment, but stopping a foot short of someone else's bumper is much better than stopping a foot into their trunk. That's my other justification.
 
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I've played at a few auto-x events with my 3. I'm not competitive, but there are lots of similarly classed cars that out-perform the e30 (that, and I'm sure the driver has something to do with it). I mostly do it for fun. I've taken to buying a different set of wheels for each set of tires - makes it easy to move them back and forth. It takes me no more than an hour. sure, I'd like to not do it, but i'd rather not be on meh tires more than I'd rather not swap them, so I do the latter.

It's also technically safer. stopping distances on snow are superior with winter rubber over all-seasons, as are summer tires in the summer. I know for a fact that in a few instances, I would've rear-ended someone had I not had on hi-perf summer tires. Not my proudest moment, but stopping a foot short of someone else's bumper is much better than stopping a foot into their trunk. That's my other justification.

Honestly, I can’t argue with your logic! As for the last part, LOL, I know what you mean!


Hey, team, I’ve been a little bored this afternoon at work, so I started working on a team web page, just something I want to do to try to sharpen my HTML skills (as I’m taking my first HTML class over the summer here), so I was hoping you guys could give it a look and let me know what you think…

http://homepages.uc.edu/~alexanf/fafolding/

I’ll be building on it over the next few months, as my skills progress, so will the site, but I figured this gives me a start. Also, I don’t know if I have everyone’s gear right, so if I have something wrong (which most of it probably is, honestly), please let me know so I can fix it.

Also, I might be asking for some info from you guys as I build it out (short bios, rig pics, stuff like that). Like I said, this was just something I’ve been wanting to do for a while and I’m going to try to work on it in my down time, so I’ll let you guys know as I update it.

Right now, I have it uploaded on my school’s filespace, but I figure once I get it looking better and more fleshed out, I’ll actually buy a domain and move it to a better spot, but for now, if you guys could just take a look and make any suggestions, that would be awesome. Also, I’m still pretty n00b with HTML, so forgive my lacking skills, my goal is to build the site as my skills build.

Thanks, team!!
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I've never bought a new BMW. Those I consider to be extremely expensive. I don't find BMWs to be terribly expensive to fix (but since when has fixing cars ever been cheap???) I've been wrenching on my e30 for 10 years, and it's a surprisingly easy car to work on, especially compared to anything with a transverse V engine or a japanese design (cough subaru cough).

I love RWD for "performance" driving, aka racing/trackdays/dirt track. not a big fan of FWD, but AWD is OK in my book.
Yeah, I just know the parts for Honda are really cheap, and to me, they are easy to work on. But then again, I’ve only ever worked on my Honda’s and my 1 Nissan, and the Nissan was a PITA.

As for your love of RWD, I can’t argue, RWD is definitely going to be more fun to drive (unless you live somewhere with a lot of snow and ice, in which RWD really, really sucks, at least in my experience), but I love how well my Si handled. Outside of a Mini, I’ve never driven a car that handled the back roads better! I really miss that car. As much as I love my new Mazda (which is getting its windows tinted as we speak), and it is fun to drive, it’s nowhere near as much fun as the Si was.
Anyway, for all my BMW fans here, BMW just set a pretty cool world record (by a crazy amount!). They set the world record for the longest drift, beating the previous record by about 44.4 MILES:


Here’s a link to the article that is well worth the read: http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs/autosblogpost.aspx?_blg=2&post=bbba4f86-416f-4251-9373-f9e53e2f5f9c

Meh, thought it would be 50+ miles of tire smoke, clicked video and found out they were using a wet track. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif


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Yeah, I just know the parts for Honda are really cheap, and to me, they are easy to work on. But then again, I’ve only ever worked on my Honda’s and my 1 Nissan, and the Nissan was a PITA.

As for your love of RWD, I can’t argue, RWD is definitely going to be more fun to drive (unless you live somewhere with a lot of snow and ice, in which RWD really, really sucks, at least in my experience), but I love how well my Si handled. Outside of a Mini, I’ve never driven a car that handled the back roads better! I really miss that car. As much as I love my new Mazda (which is getting its windows tinted as we speak), and it is fun to drive, it’s nowhere near as much fun as the Si was.

I think RWD gets an undeservedly bad rap in snow. 90% of a car's performance comes down to the tires. running snow tires in the summer (like I am right now on the 5) blows chunks in cornering grip, and running poor tires in the winter makes anything suck. Even AWD can't make up for bad tires. I think the reason RWD gets a bad rap in winter is people expect magic, and can't handle oversteer. FWD is no better on acceleration (i've passed many a FWD vehicle that couldn't make it up hills in the winter) and AWD/4WD manage to mask a lack of grip by powering two more wheels, but once you try to stop or go around a corner, the cat is out of the bag (ever wondered why you see so many SUVs in the ditch come winter?).
this is a video (in my '87 e30 3 series) with hakka tires (high end studless snows) where I sat shotty and let my buddy drive it.

he turned in a faster time than I did in my own car. loads of fun.

after switching from all seasons to winter/summer tires, I will NEVER go through winter again without winter rubber. it's just not worth it.

insofar as regular winter is concerned, I've driven the past 8 winters in that RWD car, and I pray for snowstorms so I can go run dumb errands like buying a gallon of milk in 6" of snow. SE WI is so good at clearing snow they take the fun out of little snowstorms. the new AWD car is "better" in the snow, but it has less soul. whatever that means.

I like you.
Been a while since I went driving on the ice though, boy that's fun!

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However, if I do ever get another Si

Not if, when.
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^^dig the site WM! My gear has changed since I joined... now running a delidded 3770k @ 4.9ghz.

 

I don't know what screen resolution you're designing for but IMO you could stand to reduce it a tad. Looks like you're using 1280x1024, which is good but remember that the browser interface will take up some of those pixels. I'm getting horizontal & vertical scrolling @ that res.

 

Also I'd change all fonts from bold to regular except H1 ("Full Auto Folding Team").

 

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Not if, when.

This is very, very correct, I will have another, it's just a matter of when! And, as Honda is making them in sedans (my preferance anyway), an Si can even pass for a family car, so having kids won't stop me!
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^^dig the site WM! My gear has changed since I joined... now running a delidded 3770k @ 4.9ghz.

I don't know what screen resolution you're designing for but IMO you could stand to reduce it a tad. Looks like you're using 1280x1024, which is good but remember that the browser interface will take up some of those pixels. I'm getting horizontal & vertical scrolling @ that res.

Also I'd change all fonts from bold to regular except H1 ("Full Auto Folding Team").

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Thanks for the tips. I can't remember what the res on my work rig is, but at home I'm 1280x1024 (times 3), and I don't have any side scrolling, do have a bit of vertical, but I was expecting that with the graph at the bottom. We haven't really gotten into how to code pages to work on all screen sizes, browsers, etc., I'm sure we'll get into that when we get into CSS later in the semester, but I am keeping a file of all the suggestions I get and I will work on it as time goes by.

Thanks again for the input, I'll update you guys when I make changes.
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I won't be around much for the next few weeks. I just picked up a huge 4 week project at work and school is really starting to pick up, so I'm not sure if I'll be around OCN much (certainly not as much as I have been for the last few months). If you guys need anything urgent, please send me a PM. My PMs come to my email, so I should be able to respond pretty quickly to those, but I'm not certain I'll see things posted here in the thread right away. I don't think there should be any issues since the stats are still borked, but I just wanted to let you guys know.
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Team,

I won't be around much for the next few weeks. I just picked up a huge 4 week project at work and school is really starting to pick up, so I'm not sure if I'll be around OCN much (certainly not as much as I have been for the last few months). If you guys need anything urgent, please send me a PM. My PMs come to my email, so I should be able to respond pretty quickly to those, but I'm not certain I'll see things posted here in the thread right away. I don't think there should be any issues since the stats are still borked, but I just wanted to let you guys know.

Good luck with the project! If anyone needs anything I am still around to try and help.
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