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I 've been playin around with my system for some time now and recently opted to go with the 7800GS and call it a day on my AGP comp. I figured I was happy and going from a 9550 to a 7800GS was going to melt my undies anyway and it seemed a bit cheaper than going PCI-e, new PSU, 7900GT. I figured the 3000+ Venice was going to bottleneck either card at any rate and I'm in a cheaper is better environment anyhow. Plus whenever I started thinking new Mobo before I knew it I had a 900-1200 USD comp on paper and I didn t want a new build with Vista, AM2/conroe, DDR3 possibly all looming around the bend. I like that confidence a new build should bring and I like it to last over a year.

With all that being said I added the 7800GS and had to pull my OC down cause my supposed 500W PSU had only 17A on the 12v rail. The card calls for 20min. I had to take the OC down to 225x9 and underclock the card to 350/1Ghz. OK I figured the PSU might have been long in the tooth anyhow so nothing too unexpected there. Oddly enough to me my system was still playing Oblivion with HDR, CoD2@1600x1200DX7, D&D Stormreach 1280x1024 2af 2an bloom off and Q3A maxed out all with playable to high framerates and stable. The only prob was a bit of a stutter in the newer games and the card was visibly just gettn enough juice cause the screen seemed flickery at all refresh rates.

I picked up on a whim a second gig of value ram mainly cause it was a weekend sale and a 512 was 19 bucks after savings and rebates. At under 40 it begged me to buy it. I installed it and I m sure you all realize it taxed the memory controller which demanded more juice to the CPU in an energy starved system. OK after pulling the OC down to almost nothing I got it stable but I was getting scores of 63000 in AM3 and 5300 in 3DMark05. Before the memory I was scoring 77000 in AM3 and 6800 in 3DMark05. I was P'd off but after plaing my games realized they were running better with more features enabled. Ok I always knew benchmarks and real life kinda didn't like holding hands much but I never thought it was such a discrepency.

I then realized a new PSU with some juice on the 12v rail had to come. I figured I wanted to stay cheap while getting over 20A on the 12v rail and I needed one that wasn t going to explode cause it was made with spare parts in a mud hut. The next system I build will have no carry over parts hence the budget. I found this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817170010 and 400w/550wpeak with 24A on the 12v rail. Its not the greatest but it has my system powered with the OC brought back to 250x9 and the vid card upped to 432/1.31. Nothing massive but alot more than with the old PSU and only $20 invested. I had tried it with 2x512 to see if I could take the FSB up higher than my old 267 cap and was able to get to 285x9, 280x9 actual cause 285x9 was getting hot on stock, but even with the higher OC it runs more efficiently @ 250x9 and all 4 sticks of ram installed. I lost the T1 timing also by filling in the 4 slots also. I can post and run in T1 still but there is something not right and the system constantly stutters like that.

Right now I am playing all my games at 1600x1200 with maxed textures and lots of goodies enabled, CoD2 is still in DX7 mode for multi but DX9 for single player. I hate the fact that my scores don t seem to stack up as well as I wanted them to but when it all boils off I like playing games better than etching off benchy scores so as the title says I'm happy now and I probably will stay hapy till its time to research my next generation build. Its not the biggest or the best but it is playing the newest games at what seems to me to be flawless. I don t run away from the smoke in CoD2 now but revel in sitting in 5 cans of the stuff with a shotgun readied up. I get a laugh at watching Q3A run framerates so high the network connection can t feed it enough. It seems sick now to imagine what a heavy duty dual or quad SLI system is capable of but I can't help thinking such a beast would bottle neck my eyes and my brain. LOL peace and thanks for listening to me rant a bit. I hope there is some wisdom in there for someone.
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Venice 3000+ @250x9 Asus A8V Deluxe AGP Win XP pro SP2 19" CRT 
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GE navigator Logisys 400w/550w 24A12v ATX Full Logitech 518 
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I can imagine it running a bit slow, the 3000+ isn't all that great, but it still suffices. Try getting a 2X1gb stick kit
    
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250/160 gig WD/320 gig seagate 'cuda perp. write Pioneer DVD burner (Dual Layer) XP sp.2 / vista dual boot Samsung 19" 931BW LCD. 
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250/160 gig WD/320 gig seagate 'cuda perp. write Pioneer DVD burner (Dual Layer) XP sp.2 / vista dual boot Samsung 19" 931BW LCD. 
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Nah this rig will have 0 more dollars applied to it unless something breaks. I know I wanted 2 1 gigs sticks of ddr500 but like I said the mobo is fsb locked at 300 so 300x9=2700 is max OC anyhow without going PCI-e. I went on for over 2 months deciding what to do based on market values and upcoming products and I realized a grand spent next year will last far longer then if I spent it this year. Seems that from new OS, new chipsets, new 65nm proccesses, I 'll bet we ll see PCI 2 or some other revision before long also and lets not forget the gamers bane DX10. I feel like I bailed on getting a new system by feeding into old tech but... and this is the kicker.... my games are running awsome and I never complain that it doesn t look like it was programed or I got owned cause my rig is slowing my down and killing me. I don t have to play games with cfg's or turn off effects or resolutions down.

I have the card at 444/1.34 now from 432/1.31. I might tinker with the cpu OC for kicks but I don t think I'm going to get much more real world results beyond maybe upping from 4-8 aniso or maybe maxing out a dynamic light variable. From my old perspective too this seems like going from an NES to an x-box 360. My old 9550 could play these games but I had them stripped naked with low resolutions to sustain any frame rate. I ll pop in any changes as I go along but I m thinking I'm happy now. For once LOL.
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Venice 3000+ @250x9 Asus A8V Deluxe AGP Win XP pro SP2 19" CRT 
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GE navigator Logisys 400w/550w 24A12v ATX Full Logitech 518 
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Venice 3000+ @250x9 Asus A8V Deluxe AGP Win XP pro SP2 19" CRT 
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GE navigator Logisys 400w/550w 24A12v ATX Full Logitech 518 
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