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9/21/10 at 12:58pm

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I have a samsung spinpoint still in bubblewrap unused, will plan on using it soon. I've read nothing but good stuff about it, even reading as much negative reviews as I could possibly find I think the samsung still comes out on top.

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9/21/10 at 7:06pm

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i have a samsung spinpoint f3... trust me it had lots of potential for a fast hard drive... i want to get another one for raid0 since i'm newbie w raid0 lol i want to know how much i can get window index if i get a another f3 in a raido?

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9/21/10 at 7:09pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerogamer22

i want to know how much i can get window index if i get a another f3 in a raido?

It will still be 5.9 if I can recall. You need a SSD to break the 6 point barrier.

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9/21/10 at 7:11pm

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AWWWWWWWWWWW man. since ssds are in market but they're sooo expensive. i know they want to tease us lol. i wonder if samsung will make a ssd? like...F5 ssd! lol

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9/21/10 at 7:13pm

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I think samsung does make ssd, but I have heard they are not as good compared to others

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9/21/10 at 8:27pm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by supra_rz

f3 is the best hdd in the market

Not by a long shot.

But in this case I would go F3. Can't beat the price vs performance vs capacity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by YerMother

Random access is slighty slower on the F3 but max read speed is faster.

HDTune benchmarks say F3's have about 15-20% faster sequential speeds, and Blacks have 15-20% faster access times.

They're pretty equal as OS drives. Most people here go for whatever is cheaper.

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9/21/10 at 8:46pm

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hd tune benchmarks show f3s in raid 0 raping the caviar blacks...

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9/21/10 at 11:21pm

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i have used to own 4 500gb blacks (AALS) in raid 0 then due to hype of the F3's i switched to 4 500gb F3's and to be honest i really cant tell all that much diffence but from the benchmarks it does show the F3's being around 20% faster then the blacks i had

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9/22/10 at 12:23am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by XinjaX

i have used to own 4 500gb blacks (AALS) in raid 0 then due to hype of the F3's i switched to 4 500gb F3's and to be honest i really cant tell all that much diffence but from the benchmarks it does show the F3's being around 20% faster then the blacks i had

If you're curious why a drive with 20% higher sequential speeds doesn't feel any faster...

http://www.overclock.net/hard-drives...l#post10559702

On a good SATA controller, F3's have access times under 13ms. But Blacks can be as low as ~11.6ms, so the figures in my post approximately hold true.

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9/22/10 at 10:42am

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I'd probably go for the Blacks.

I have 2x WD Black 750 GB and 2x Spinpoint F1 750 GB's in my fileserver.
The blacks are consistently about 10 MB/sec higher per drive on throughput.

Not sure how the F1's compare to the F3's though.

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