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Well, since it's not a full review, all we get is his opinion that it's "not worth the price" and that you should "buy a P6X58D-E as it overclocks and performs MUCH better." - This from the text overlay, not even from the video itself. We don't know why he drew this conclusion, and certainly don't have any benchmarks to back it up.

I will say this - having just upgraded from the P6X58D-E to the RIIIF and run multiple benchmarks on each, any claim that the p6x58d-e performs "MUCH better" is flatly incorrect. The 2 boards perform identically at identical settings the RIIIF definitely out-overclocks the P6X58D-E at the same voltage settings.

Perhaps they he is just upset that the board won't be released on the UK? I don't know, but unsubstantiated statements like the ones he's printed on this video are irresponsible to the point of being worse than saying nothing at all. Just because you have a camera and an affiliation with some hardware review site doesn't qualify you to review a product.
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don't listen to claims when it isn't a FULL review, even then look through other reviews
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How's the overclocking on the RIIIF?
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How's the overclocking on the RIIIF?
My chip (Xeon 5620) is multiplier limited (19 turbo multi) so needs high bclk. I run it at 216 on the RIIIF - that's a 24/7 stable OC. There's evidence that after 216 blck, there are some performance issues - not sure if that's specific to the RIIIF.

I could reach 216 on the P6X58D-E, but definitely not for 24/7 stability. Even 211 wasn't stable on the P6X58D-E, so the RIIIF wins in that dept.

The RIIIF also gets it done with slightly lower voltages (vcore and QPI DRAM) than did the P6X58D-E at every step.

I'm on air only, so I can't/won't really push this thing, but it's hands down the best air-overclocker of the X58 boards I've owned (X58A-UD3R, MSI Big Bang X-Power are the other two).
Edited by ChronoTrigger - 10/2/10 at 8:39am
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I'm currently running my 950 at 21x191 (4ghz). Needs only 1.19 vcore(so far). I will be pushing it harder once I get all the bugs ironed out of my newly assembled media centre pc.
Edited by Robilar - 10/2/10 at 9:53am
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Well, since it's not a full review, all we get is his opinion that it's "not worth the price" and that you should "buy a P6X58D-E as it overclocks and performs MUCH better." - This from the text overlay, not even from the video itself. We don't know why he drew this conclusion, and certainly don't have any benchmarks to back it up.

I will say this - having just upgraded from the P6X58D-E to the RIIIF and run multiple benchmarks on each, any claim that the p6x58d-e performs "MUCH better" is flatly incorrect. The 2 boards perform identically at identical settings the RIIIF definitely out-overclocks the P6X58D-E at the same voltage settings.

Perhaps they he is just upset that the board won't be released on the UK? I don't know, but unsubstantiated statements like the ones he's printed on this video are irresponsible to the point of being worse than saying nothing at all. Just because you have a camera and an affiliation with some hardware review site doesn't qualify you to review a product.
P6X58D-E is solid and i imagine the guy is trying to save people money, but that's why i dotted out reasons for the 70 dollar increase helps people figure out exactly what they are getting and make the decision themselves.

I sometimes see people buying the P6X58D premium, at that price bracket the asus rampage formula is a deal.

I still think the price points are a little strange, but it's a good middle of the road $70/$70 between extreme and budget. I actually like the layout on this better than the extreme.
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P6X58D-E is solid and i imagine the guy is trying to save people money, but that's why i dotted out reasons for the 70 dollar increase helps people figure out exactly what they are getting and make the decision themselves.

I sometimes see people buying the P6X58D premium, at that price bracket the asus rampage formula is a deal.

I still think the price points are a little strange, but it's a good middle of the road $70/$70 between extreme and budget. I actually like the layout on this better than the extreme.
It would be one thing if he said "there is no performance difference, so why pay $70 more?", but he says the p6x58d-e "overclocks and performs MUCH better", but can't substantiate it. That's my problem with this irresponsible statement slapped onto a video "preview".

You are exactly right that the price diff should be completely justified by features (and not performance). In this case, I think it is, the layout being prime among them.
Edited by ChronoTrigger - 10/2/10 at 9:06am
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I have a P6X58D-E in one of my other systems and it is an excellent board. It does not provide any performance boost of the RIIIF nor does it provide superior overclocking.

The thread at XS has a member that has hit 250 BLCK with the Formula...
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How's the overclocking on the RIIIF?
i7 950 @ 4.2 GHz (183x23) with 1.28 vcore and memory @ 1834 MHz, 6-9-6-24-1T

far better than my Q9550 and 790i Ultra. haha
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It would be one thing if he said "there is no performance difference, so why pay $70 more?", but he says the p6x58d-e "overclocks and performs MUCH better", but can't substantiate it. That's my problem with this irresponsible statement slapped onto a video "preview".

You are exactly right that the price diff should be completely justified by features (and not performance). In this case, I think it is, the layout being prime among them.
Yea, that's complete bunk. I was going to say something but i was trying to be nice. I don't like to discredit someone when I don't particularly know them, but just because one may wear a expert coat does not make it true. Honestly he might not even be aware of what the board actually offers as it was a preview some of the features are pretty hard to find between boards. He should have reserved judgment.

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I have a P6X58D-E in one of my other systems and it is an excellent board. It does not provide any performance boost of the RIIIF nor does it provide superior overclocking.

The thread at XS has a member that has hit 250 BLCK with the Formula...
When the board originally came out one of the early reviews had reported a BLCK problem, basically after a certain clock gaming performance plummeted. The reviewer had tried to contact other reviewers to test the problem but none got back to him. This issue has since been linked to the video card.

http://www.vortez.co.uk/contenttelle...review,14.html

When i first heard about it i was worried about the board, but I'm glad that has been resolved. Nice to see people hitting those clocks I probably never will lol....

I kinda just wanted to state that "problem" also in case one of the people interested in the board originally heard of the problem but didn't actively check into it.
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