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I dont get it, the 540 Prescott is $238 on Newegg, while the 630&631 is in the $170s What sort of marketing is this? Lets make the older cpu more expensive so that no one will buy it retail, and then we can turn around and sell em all to OEMs? Same thing with discontinued Athlon XPs 3200 XPs at 170? what?
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I dont get it, the 540 Prescott is $238 on Newegg, while the 630&631 is in the $170s What sort of marketing is this? Lets make the older cpu more expensive so that no one will buy it retail, and then we can turn around and sell em all to OEMs? Same thing with discontinued Athlon XPs 3200 XPs at 170? what?
They have higher clock speeds, thats why they are higher prices, they think thats more important posible, even the the 630/1 is 65nm, and is the better buy buy a long ****
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so yea its worth the extra 8 bucks for the cedar mill lol

hey you stay in washington haha i havnt seen that many so far...

but yes its definitely worth 8 bucks for the 65nm processing, it will run you cooler, and overclock better (which is a huge plus), but also..why not go dual core im absolutely sure you can get a dual core

heres an 805 if you want budget :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116001

and heres an 820 ( a lot better bang for the buck, better processor for not too much money) and a great oc'er!! :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116213

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theres a typeo in my last response I ment the 531 Prescot which is a 3.0ghz is at $238 while the 630 prescot is at 170 has 2mb of L2 and its $170 and ya 8 bucks more for the 65nm process cedar mill. Fastest stock p4 available is 3.8 prescot, 3.6 for the cedar mill, though I bet that Cedar Mill will go much farther than the prescot.
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reason why i dont go dual core on this setup is because its for a friend and he already has a mobo but i dont think it supports dual core... and he is on a tight budget that his dad is funding. and im not an intel guy (have 4 systems 3/4 are amd and 1 like top of the line p4 in 2000 lol) and i havnt heard much about cedar mill i figured it was there new one but u know i just wanted to check before i wasted a friends money.
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then ceder mill would do you good..great for overclocking
    
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Few bucks more gets you a Smithfield, might as well start dual core.
If you go dual core avoid the Smithfields. As if one Prescott isnt hot enough they stuck two together and got a blast furnace.

Go for a Presler if you get dual core. Theyre not as hot.
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I absolutely love Preslers, and a Cedar Mill is basically just a single core Presler with Hyper Threading (so half of an EE ) I'd take a Cedar Mill over a Smithfield any day of the week, if you can spare the cash however you will never dream of regretting the Presler A 920 will serve you far better than a 631 trust me. Pauldovi has his 920 at 4.7GHz on water and my 930 is totally stable up to 4.3 on air cooling!
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Originally Posted by TheProfiteer
theres a typeo in my last response I ment the 531 Prescot which is a 3.0ghz is at $238 while the 630 prescot is at 170 has 2mb of L2 and its $170 and ya 8 bucks more for the 65nm process cedar mill.

In the world of computers you can NOT go on the assumption that the most expensive componant is the best. Computer part pricing is influenced a lot by supply. Older technologies are not produced as much as newer ones, therefore, they usually cost more because there are fewer of them.

It may seem silly on the surface, however, if you think about it, it becomes more clear.


Corsair PC2100 512MB - $59.00


Corsair XMS PC5400 512MB - $52.00


Why would anyone buy a value stick of PC2100 for $7 more than a high perfomance stick of PC5400????

Why?


Well, maybe because that person has a 4 year old motherboard that not only doesn't support DDR2, but can't handle more than PC2700 DDR. And new boards would not handle their CPU, so to use that cheaper stick of DDR2, they would have to spend approx $250 (new board and CPU) just to save $7.


Not everyone changes their computer every year, not everyone cares about having a fast CPU. Most people buy a new computer every 3-4 years, and then they do it by buying pre-builts. Many people buy pre-builts and just add RAM, or hard drives, or video cards later, but keep the base for several years.

The point is, people still NEED those old parts, either to upgrade or to simply replace what was broken just to stay where they are. Yet the manufactures are more interested in turning out the new stuff for people like us to buy. So as the demand stays the same or dips only slightly, the supply of the old stuff dwindles and therefore, they are more expensive.


For instance, the best thing to do here would be to wait until next month when the 920 drops in price, however, as he mentioned, his friend just wants a new CPU, his motherboard is fine for him, and it won't support a dual core Pentium. So while the 920 would be a better deal, he would ahve to spend MORE because he would have to buy a new motherboard.

For your purposes, and your friends's budget, the Cedar Mill is your best choice.
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Didnt know your mobo didnt support a Pentium D, Cedar Mill is what I would choose then.
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