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post #11881 of 18196
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Originally Posted by Mergatroid View Post

AIO water coolers are not a waste of money. My H100 cost me $99 CDN. You cannot get a full loop for $100 in Canada. Also, my 3.3GHz i5 2500K is running at 4.5GHz, which is more than 1GHz overclock, so my H100 is working great.

On top of that, I don't have to maintain my H100 at all. I put it in, and leave it alone and it just works.

Lastly, if anything goes wrong within the 5 year warranty, and it causes a leak from a manufacturing defect, Corsair will not only replace the cooler, but will also replace any parts damaged by the cooler, which I call peace of mind. On the other hand, anyone putting in their own loop, if they get a leak, they are boned.

Anyone who thinks AIO water coolers are "a waste of money" has no idea what they are talking about.

Getting 4.5 on a 2500K using an AIO is like saying your calculator can count past the number ten. If you hit 4.5 at all you could have done it with a slice of wet bread as the cooler. And as i don't know what is available in Canada here at least the cheapest XSPC kit was within $10 of the H100. But the best air coolers (that perform on par with the H100) where $30-40 cheaper.
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On top of that, I don't have to maintain my H100 at all. I put it in, and leave it alone and it just works.

That is alarming. That is not the attitude you need to have about any kind of watercooling. Getting an AIO cooler is nothing but a Toyota MR2 dressed up as a Ferrari. They are nasty and if things go wrong Corsair do not "have your back" in terms of warranty. They may offer replacement parts or another AIO cooler. but all that could have been avoided by the cheaper high end air cooler. And you would have still of had the exact same result in terms of overclocking and temperatures.

And next time when you want to type these words,
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Anyone who thinks AIO water coolers are "a waste of money" has no idea what they are talking about.
please at least check if you trying to call out someone who hasn't spent the last 15 years building custom watercooling rigs and who also hasn't tested almost all past/current AIO coolers.

They perform **** for water, and are near enough on par with all of the best air coolers on the market. Why spend $100 on a H100 then maybe replace the fans (+$30), to get the same results as an $80-90 air cooler? which has 0 risk of leaks & an even greatly low maintainable usage model.

If you're happy to have spent 100 dollars on a water cooler. welcome to the elite club of uneducated masses who see watercooling written on the box and $100 on the price tag and must think gods just handed you a 1 up IRL. Congratulations thumb.gif
Edited by Modzy - 8/18/13 at 9:46pm
post #11882 of 18196
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That is alarming. That is not the attitude you need to have about any kind of watercooling.

Totally agree with this comment, you can not just install and then never check it, very scary.. Raditor + Dust = Cleaning of the radiator, as when dust collects on the fins the performance of the radiator is reduced.

I check my system every day, and thoroughly once a week. I pull my system apart every 3 months and clean the radiators.. regardless.

My system is very modular now, so pulling apart and cleaning requires less time.
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I'll give Mergatroid the benefit of the doubt. I may have been a little overboard.

Welcome to the elitist club of watercooling our AIO designated seating arrangement is in the back, surrounded by a security fence and guarded by a very respectable elder member of our club. There you find all the other AIO members who share in the joys of figuring out why triangle doesn't fit into circle hole and ponder over the exquisite taste of lime cordial soaked peanut butter sandwich squares. Remember to raise you hand when you need a bathroom break and a member of our team will escort you safely and even provide assistance if need be. thumb.gif
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Well I went and did it....
Couldn't figure out how to remove that center strip redface.gif

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



Hah that looks good! thumb.gif

Hmm... Have you tried removing the front panel? That strip has to come off somehow lol
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"I may have been a little overboard." - exquisite taste of lime cordial soaked peanut butter sandwich squares.

Well that escalated quickly...

Okay i'm not going to go into a debate over what's better and what's worse because that would get me nowhere this is the internet anyways. But what i will say is you have a lot of valid points, actually all you say in the previous post was pretty spot on even though you might not have chosen the best words to say it.

Honestly mate at the end of the day it's your money you choose what to do with it, what's better for you might not be better for others. We can all agree that custom loops is the best performing best looking by a long stretch. I can just say i don't have the money to put something like that together anytime soon, though that doesn't mean i will go and buy a H100 don't get me wrong. If i saw a reason to watercool for other than looks i would probably do it a lot sooner. If i truly needed 5Ghz overclock or higher on my CPU i would probably also think hard on getting a loop sooner rather than later.

So again i like your points and i agree with them but this is the internet, getting hot headed over a comment wont get you very far, even if you have tons of experience. That is of course not to say that Mergatroid was 100% right about his statements, but honestly whatever floats your boat is what you should go with. Either way i genuinely laughed from your view on AIO coolers, good stuff mate lachen.gif
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Actually, I regret, and at the same time do not regret having bought a AIO cooler for my CPU.

Here's from someone who's been using an AIO for 8 months now and is midway into a CPU+GPU custom loop... The H100i was probably what helped me ditch the fear I had into going soaked; that's the part of I don't regret. Having spent about €110 and after 8 months switching to a nearly 8 times more expensive loop... that's the part I regret.

IMHO the H100i is a very good performer. Not the best price/performance ratio, but nonetheless, it does the job really well, and I cannot deny a high end air cooler would be cheaper and just as good, if not better. And the cleanliness is one major plus for me, I was kinda tired of seeing those clunks of copper/nickel/alu over the CPU covering half of the area of the mobo/case.


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hi, it's able to get acrylic panel for 600t in europe? sombody is making here? biggrin.gifcheers.gif
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Well honestly i don't know a place in Europe you can buy it you have to get it from a guy called CyberDruid here on OCN.

Here are some links:

His YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/CyberDruidtheModGod?feature=watch

And here on OCN: http://www.overclock.net/u/10018/cyberdruid

So yeah just send him a message on either one, i think the panel costs around 75$ shipping is quite expensive sadly, but it shouldn't be higher than 40-50$
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Well honestly i don't know a place in Europe you can buy it you have to get it from a guy called CyberDruid here on OCN.

Here are some links:

His YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/CyberDruidtheModGod?feature=watch

And here on OCN: http://www.overclock.net/u/10018/cyberdruid

So yeah just send him a message on either one, i think the panel costs around 75$ shipping is quite expensive sadly, but it shouldn't be higher than 40-50$

thnks, will try to contact smile.gif
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thnks, will try to contact smile.gif
Alternatively there is also this site: http://www.mnpctech.com/Corsair_600T_Clear_Side_Panels.html they also sell acrylic side panels. Though a bit more expensive but yeah if you can't get a hold of him which you should be able to thumb.gif
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