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Originally Posted by FullMetalZero;13547287 
Nice lookin build!
Although I'll just say this because the picture is quite bright, do you have filters on those side intakes? Because if not, you'll rack up dust pretty quickly.

Thanks, those are all filters, all intake has filters.. I despise dust! Probably why I went with 7 intake and only 1 exhaust.. positive pressure!
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Thinking about removing that front hard drive cage and mounting a thicker 200mm fan up front to push some more air. Anyone have any experience with this? Thought I heard mention you had to use zipties to mount, as a thicker fan won't mount properly in the front.

Not sure I'm seeing a really great replacement, though, asides from the CM Megaflow (and I didn't really want to go back to blue LEDs) or the NZXT, which I'm thinking might not fit properly.

Maybe I'll just wait until Corsair releases the 200mm fans from the SE version. Thinking at this point I'm going to go with 2x120mm fans up top (probably the Xigmatek white LED crystal to keep the LED look) and replace the rear 120mm exhaust (probably the CM R4 rifle...in my not-so-scientific testing last night of that, the Xigmatek, and a Scythe slipstream, that was the fan that provided the most airflow while still being reasonably quiet, though louder than the others). Thinking about the scythe fans for the side panel, as they were the lowest noise (and lowest airflow, but 4x of them should be just fine, heh).
Edited by bmckenna - 5/18/11 at 3:36am
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Originally Posted by bmckenna;13547839 
Thinking about removing that front hard drive cage and mounting a thicker 200mm fan up front to push some more air. Anyone have any experience with this? Thought I heard mention you had to use zipties to mount, as a thicker fan won't mount properly in the front.

Not sure I'm seeing a really great replacement, though, asides from the CM Megaflow (and I didn't really want to go back to blue LEDs) or the NZXT, which I'm thinking might not fit properly.

Maybe I'll just wait until Corsair releases the 200mm fans from the SE version. Thinking at this point I'm going to go with 2x120mm fans up top (probably the Xigmatek white LED crystal to keep the LED look) and replace the rear 120mm exhaust (probably the CM R4 rifle...in my not-so-scientific testing last night of that, the Xigmatek, and a Scythe slipstream, that was the fan that provided the most airflow while still being reasonably quiet, though louder than the others). Thinking about the scythe fans for the side panel, as they were the lowest noise (and lowest airflow, but 4x of them should be just fine, heh).

A few of us have tried the NZXT, they definitely don't line up to the holes but people have made it work. Have you considered the Yate Loon 220mm fan? It was a fan mentioned early in this thread but I don't think anyone gave it a try. I am looking for a 180-220mm fan that has decent static pressure, or at least better then 1.82mm/h20 (thats what the NZXTs are).
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Originally Posted by CesarNYC;13548348 
A few of us have tried the NZXT, they definitely don't line up to the holes but people have made it work. Have you considered the Yate Loon 220mm fan? It was a fan mentioned early in this thread but I don't think anyone gave it a try. I am looking for a 180-220mm fan that has decent static pressure, or at least better then 1.82mm/h20 (thats what the NZXTs are).

Very interesting. If someone confirms that it will fit (or at least should fit), I'll look into it. Would prefer not to spend $20 (including shipping) on something that won't work.

What would be the best way to mount it? I'm assuming that the mount points won't work...zipties? Some sort of adhesive? I was thinking about those double sided foam pads (1" square), as I have a bunch of them...each of them supposedly will hold a pound, so four (one in each corner) should be more than sufficient, I would imagine.

edit: this review isn't very encouraging - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2009/10/09/whats-the-best-supersize-case-fan/4

I actually have an antec big boy sitting in my 900 (I think that's the giant fan on top)...might see if I can pop that out and make it work.
Edited by bmckenna - 5/18/11 at 6:16am
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Very interesting. If someone confirms that it will fit (or at least should fit), I'll look into it. Would prefer not to spend $20 (including shipping) on something that won't work.

What would be the best way to mount it? I'm assuming that the mount points won't work...zipties? Some sort of adhesive? I was thinking about those double sided foam pads (1" square), as I have a bunch of them...each of them supposedly will hold a pound, so four (one in each corner) should be more than sufficient, I would imagine.

edit: this review isn't very encouraging - http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cooling/2009/10/09/whats-the-best-supersize-case-fan/4

I actually have an antec big boy sitting in my 900 (I think they're the same fan)...might see if I can pop that out and make it work.

funny you posted that link, I just bumped into that roundup while trying to find out the static pressure of the Yate Loons. I have zero intrest now in the Yate Loons. The article itself was pretty interesting. Its a bit presumptuous to make these conclusions on just one article but here is what I think:

Ditch the 200mm fans! They may sound quiet but because of the horrible static pressure they don't come close to their rated CFM. On top of that the restrictive grills on the case and you have some poor air flow overall. A possible exception could be the NZXT high speed 200mm since they claim to have twice the static pressure of the ones that were tested in the round up (too bad this article was written before the NZXT were available, I would like to see how the fare). As I said this is just one review so it might be premature to condem most 200mm fans as gimmicks, but it does seem to make sense (look how poor the stock 200mm fans are on the 600T). If you are going to add a rad to the front of the case, it might be worth modding the front to get the 240 in. The fans in the 120-140 ranges have far superior static pressure. On the other hand I prefer not to mod my case because I don't want to hurt the resale value (for whenever the 700T comes out and it time to upgrade)
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post #1326 of 18196
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Originally Posted by CesarNYC;13548855 
funny you posted that link, I just bumped into that roundup while trying to find out the static pressure of the Yate Loons. I have zero intrest now in the Yate Loons. The article itself was pretty interesting. Its a bit presumptuous to make these conclusions on just one article but here is what I think:

Ditch the 200mm fans! They may sound quiet but because of the horrible static pressure they don't come close to their rated CFM. On top of that the restrictive grills on the case and you have some poor air flow overall. A possible exception could be the NZXT high speed 200mm since they claim to have twice the static pressure of the ones that were tested in the round up (too bad this article was written before the NZXT were available, I would like to see how the fare). As I said this is just one review so it might be premature to condem most 200mm fans as gimmicks, but it does seem to make sense (look how poor the stock 200mm fans are on the 600T). If you are going to add a rad to the front of the case, it might be worth modding the front to get the 240 in. The fans in the 120-140 ranges have far superior static pressure. On the other hand I prefer not to mod my case because I don't want to hurt the resale value (for whenever the 700T comes out and it time to upgrade)

Yeah...I am pretty sure I ran the Antec Big Boy at the second speed setting, but will do some testing. If it's tolerably loud at the top setting, and it will fit, or produces enough airflow at the second setting, I'll probably go that route for the front intake fan. If not, I'm thinking about attaching 2x120mm fans (if I can make them fit) in the front, removing the front hard drive cage if necessary. I don't really care about resale value, as I really love this case and will in all likelihood continue to use it for my next build (which is years away...I generally upgrade every 3-4 years, and this 2500k will most likely serve my needs for a long while)...but I'm not really planning on any extensive modding, just trying to get the case serviceable in terms of airflow to the point where it's not dropping 5 degrees C just by removing the side panel.

Here's another question, since I haven't really looked...if I mount 2x120mm fans on the top (and remove the 200mm fan there), do they get mounted on the interior of the case, or in between the exterior and the grill...not sure if the clearance is there on top of the motherboard to mount them inside, but then again, they probably won't go as far towards the back of the motherboard since they're narrower.
Edited by bmckenna - 5/18/11 at 6:38am
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I wouldent bother changing the fans untill the end of the month as Corsair will be selling the 600tse fans and the 650d fans.

the 600tse fans are the same as the 600t but run at 1000rpm instead of 800

the 650d fans are black with no leds, have a different profile on the blades to the 600t and run at 1000rpm (i will be upgrading to these)
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Yeah...I am pretty sure I ran the Antec Big Boy at the second speed setting, but will do some testing. If it's tolerably loud at the top setting, and it will fit, or produces enough airflow at the second setting, I'll probably go that route for the front intake fan. If not, I'm thinking about attaching 2x120mm fans (if I can make them fit) in the front, removing the front hard drive cage if necessary. I don't really care about resale value, as I really love this case and will in all likelihood continue to use it for my next build (which is years away...I generally upgrade every 3-4 years, and this 2500k will most likely serve my needs for a long while)...but I'm not really planning on any extensive modding, just trying to get the case serviceable in terms of airflow to the point where it's not dropping 5 degrees C just by removing the side panel.

Here's another question, since I haven't really looked...if I mount 2x120mm fans on the top (and remove the 200mm fan there), do they get mounted on the interior of the case, or in between the exterior and the grill...not sure if the clearance is there on top of the motherboard to mount them inside, but then again, they probably won't go as far towards the back of the motherboard since they're narrower.

25mm thick 120mm fans and under can go sandwiched up top between the case and grill. 26mm -38mm thick (approx.) can be mounted up top on the interior side.

I would like to know that static pressure on the 650D case fans.
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The UPS man delivered my 600T SE yesterday. I don't have it up and running yet. Waiting on my 2500K to arrive...a friend got it for me from Micro Center and it is enroute. Problem is I will be out of town when it gets here and won't be back til Sunday.

Back to case...the quality is superb. I have been looking at ways to increase airflow. Since I am only using the top 5 1/4 bay it leaves me plenty of room to add a 120 mm fan in that area and the individual bay covers are filtered:yessir:.

I am going to use the internal plastic fan adapter from my 900 (5 1/4 bay) to hold the fan and fill up the extra space. I super glued a thin rubber gasket material to the bottom and 2 sides of the 900s fan adapter. That gives it a snug fit and will also dampen any vibration. It will be fastened to the 5 1/4 bay with black wire ties. Already tried it and it works well. So, that should give me a lot more air going to the CPU wink.gif

Ok, now the hard drives. I use 5 and want to stay with the stacked assembly. So I have devised a way to add 2 ...120 mm fans to the back of the cages for a pull effect.

I am going to wait until next week to see if I need the additional fans,but I'm guessing they will be needed. Gotta see what the hard drive temps are and how well the CPU cools.

At any rate I am very pleased with the case. Corsair you did a great job yessir.gif

Edit: @ Corsair George...can you tell me the CFM on the rear 120 exhaust? The 3 fans I am looking to get move 75 CFM each and those along with the 200 mm front intake may provide too much positive pressure. If the rear 120 is less than 75 CFM I may need to swap it to the top 5/14 bay and use that intended fan as the rear exhaust ? Your thoughts?

Edit again: the inside of the side cover opposite the windowed side needs to be painted black. It is a stark contrast to the all black inside
Edited by dennyb - 5/18/11 at 12:37pm
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here it is. sign me up please!

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soon i'll order NZXT sleeve cables so it will look more cleaner then now.
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