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post #1861 of 18210
I've been looking at this thread for awhile now really enjoying your pictures and chomping at the bit to build my system using ideas robbed from some of you guys, here it is:

Eve
(Name inspired by the movie WALL-E)

Corsair Graphite 600T White case
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Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge CPU overclocked to 5Ghz
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 memory
Two XFX Radeon HD 6970 2GB in CrossFireX
Swiftech APOGEE-XT CPU Waterblock, MCP655 12 VDC Pump, & MCR220-QP Radiator
Two Western Digital Caviar Black 640Gb hard drives in RAID 0
Western Digital Caviar Black 1Tb hard drive
Corsair TX Series 950W power supply
Three AeroCool Shark White LED Case Fans
NZXT Sleeved LED Kit

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http://youtu.be/fuNV6klU2qs

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UPDATE: I picked up some Nylobrade Braid Reinforced Tubing at Home Depot to replace the tubing in my computer. This stuff is un-kinkable and heavy duty. Plus the white mesh works well with my white theme.

Edited by TraPofMinD - 9/5/12 at 9:07pm
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post #1862 of 18210
Very Nice! One Day, when I go intel, I will water cool, I love the way the water system looks inside these cases.
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post #1863 of 18210
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Dude, in many years of building, and TONS of 90 and 180 degree bends, I have never broken a wire, nor created a short. And that was with a lot of cheap no-name power supplies in the "old days" when there was no such thing as cable management and if you wanted to hide your cables you pretty much had to bend them up. I've even done this a lot with the older IDE cables without ever damaging a cable. Other than sharp edges and metal fatigue (from bending the wires back and forth over and over) I fail to see how a sharp bend in a wire is going to affect anything. The electronic products I service at work often have sharp bends in their harnesses with no ill effect at all (not to mention length straining because some manufacturers are way to cheap to add another couple of mm). Really, as long as you don't sit there bending the wires over and over and over, bending them to achieve a tight routing is not going to have any effect at all. It will definitely not cause any problems over time either (unless the wire is repeatedly flexing a lot or sitting on a sharp edge). I mean, cables come already bent at 180 degrees with ties on them, and IDE cables come bent into an accordion shape and sit shelved like that for years. Even cables with many very thin wires inside a sheaf can come bent for packaging. I think about the worst you could say is to be careful not to put too much strain on the connector, because you can pull the bare wire out of the connector if you pull on it enough, however that would take a lot of force to do.

There are very few things that will make a metal wire go bad. Cutting (sharp edge), stretching (must pass the tensile strength of the wire), metal fatigue (from constant flexing), corrosion (even inside a rubber sleeve, a copper wire can eventually get corroded in a humid environment, it's weird but I've seen it happen). Just bending a wire 180 or 90 degrees is not going to cause any damage in any way, even if you put a little stress on it. (my last psu had such short cpu power lines it barley reached. I had to give it a very tight 180 bend to get it to plug in. That supply is still working like a champ in another computer).

Sorry if I rant too, but when I see someone warn about:

"sharp bends eventually turn in to strained/broken wires and shorts, and basically...yeah... Never put extreme bends in any cable"

And I know it's wrong, I just can't let it slide. There's enough misinformation out there as it is.

Sorry if I seem opinionated or anything.

Sorry to hear about your problems with Corsair shipping. You don't have anyone at home who Corsair could ship your replacement to, and they could relay it to you through the USPS? If not, I'm sure someone trustworthy here on overclock.net would help you out in situations like that. I'd be happy to help myself but I'm in Canada. Just have a friend do it for you. Use your name and their address.

Isn't that what family/friends are for?
Yes, I do have friends and family in the states that I could ship the return to, but why? I shouldn't have to. This is a Corsair recall, and they should be willing to work with their customers in this case. And after my last email from customer support, I will never use Corsair products again.

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Hello Anthony,
I'm sorry about your experience with the drive. Unfortunately the only service provider we use is UPS which has restrictions with delivery to your APO. I see that you processed the RMA with newegg which would be the next best approach. Had you not been able to do that, we could have arranged for you to get a refund.

Have a great day
Jamie Macias-Nguyen, Customer Service Supervisor
Seems like it is no big deal...everything is cool here, I processed my RMA through another company so Corsair doesn't have to deal with it. It doesn't matter that our system is broken and in the end the customer pays for it...

I won't get into the cables... Yes true, 9 times out of 10 bending the hell out of cable won't do anything to it. However, my job deals with building of cables; power, signal, etc... Some of the cables we build can cost as much as $10,000 and we focus on every dB of loss through the cable, not just does it transmit or not... This has probably cause me to become over sensitive over the years to cables/cable management, etc...
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post #1864 of 18210
@Mergatroid:

Yes, I do have friends and family in the states that I could ship the return to, but why? I shouldn't have to. This is a Corsair recall, and they should be willing to work with their customers in this case. And after my last email from customer support, I will never use Corsair products again.

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Hello Anthony,
I'm sorry about your experience with the drive. Unfortunately the only service provider we use is UPS which has restrictions with delivery to your APO. I see that you processed the RMA with newegg which would be the next best approach. Had you not been able to do that, we could have arranged for you to get a refund.

Have a great day
Jamie Macias-Nguyen, Customer Service Supervisor
Seems like it is no big deal...everything is cool here, I processed my RMA through another company so Corsair doesn't have to deal with it. It doesn't matter that our system is broken and in the end the customer pays for it...

I won't get into the cables... Yes true, 9 times out of 10 bending the hell out of cable won't do anything to it. However, my job deals with building of cables; power, signal, etc... Some of the cables we build can cost as much as $10,000 and we focus on every dB of loss through the cable, not just does it transmit or not... This has probably cause me to become over sensitive over the years to cables/cable management, etc... However, if you want to f@ck up your cables go ahead...I'll stick to my magical made up theory that bending/stressing metal is bad for it!
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post #1865 of 18210
@TraPofMinD - wow that looks really clean! good job!

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I'm actually thinking red. After seeing the white in there, it kind of looks out of place. I thought it would blend well with the white outside, but I don't know.
Maybe red sleeving with black heat shrink and white connectors.
You won't be disappointed with the mod/smart extensions. Make sure to post some pics when you get them in!
yea i think red will be much better. well we'll see what happens hope to see it finished soon!


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That looks great man. Well done. That's a sweet case for sure. Love the mobo.
thanks for the comment mergatroid!



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post #1866 of 18210
Mergatroid: Thanks for the rep, appreciate it. Your build is ace!

I am going to tidy up and reroute my cabling, replace the Thermal paste on the cards with arcticE and also possibly move the drive cage and installl a 30mm fan at the fron for better air flow. Will post pics when I get around to doing this (Friday).

fun...
post #1867 of 18210
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I'm sorry you've had this issue. Why don't you email me your contact info: redbeard@corsair.com and I'll see what I can do for you. I can't change company policy, but I can definitely get you a new drive sent out.
This just proves one thing....


































Corsair customer support is amzing!
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post #1868 of 18210
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Originally Posted by TraPofMinD View Post
I've been looking at this thread for awhile now really enjoying your pictures and chomping at the bit to build my system using ideas robbed from some of you guys, here it is:

Eve
(Name inspired by the movie WALL-E)

Corsair Graphite 600T White case
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO Z68 Motherboard
Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge CPU overclocked to 5Ghz
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 memory
Two XFX Radeon HD 6970 2GB in CrossFireX
Swiftech APOGEE-XT CPU Waterblock, MCP655 12 VDC Pump, & MCR220-QP Radiator
Two Western Digital Caviar Black 640Gb hard drives in RAID 0
Western Digital Caviar Black 1Tb hard drive
Corsair TX Series 950W power supply
Three AeroCool Shark White LED Case Fans
NZXT Sleeved LED Kit

3DMark Vantage Performance Score of: P39971
http://youtu.be/fuNV6klU2qs




Very nice looking build. If you don't mind me asking, what are your GPU/CPU temps in that configuration? Everything I keep reading says 1 thin 240mm radiator isn't enough heat dissipation for a CPU+GPU loop, and yet you have an OC'ed CPU and 2xGPU...
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post #1869 of 18210
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That's really coming along. That's a sweet looking mobo. ...... Too bad the manufacturers don't make those connectors at a right angle from the factory. I've seen a lot of people complain about that same thing.
Its too bad you don't work for the manufacturer, because you have posted some great ideas that could really help builders (well, that 3 sided fan was kinda out there). I know I have seen right angle connectors and sockets, mostly in automotive applications. Someone needs to tell them its okay to put them on mobos too.

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They sure look sleeved don't they? CeaserNYC, I thought you'd rather eat your cables than sleeve them? Are those stock for your psu?
I didn't sleeve them myself, someone else did it. Its an extension, I bought it with my first build in this case months ago. I am going to really tighten up the wiring in this case second time around, so you might see seem some more....not sure yet.

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Originally Posted by TraPofMinD View Post
I've been looking at this thread for awhile now really enjoying your pictures and chomping at the bit to build my system using ideas robbed from some of you guys, here it is:

Eve
(Name inspired by the movie WALL-E)
Good choice for the theme. It might be hard to pull, but I wonder if you could cut holes in the front grill to match Eve's "eyes"?

I am of two minds when it comes to case lighting. I admit it can look cool, and does make a case more interesting. On the other hand, running it 24/7 would be so gaudy. Those of us old enough to remember when cell phones that had those nubby antennas...remember how people would replace them with those blinking LEDs? Made me wish natural selection would kick in and a predator would eat them.

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And after my last email from customer support, I will never use Corsair products again.........Seems like it is no big deal...everything is cool here, I processed my RMA through another company so Corsair doesn't have to deal with it. It doesn't matter that our system is broken and in the end the customer pays for it...
That email is very disappointing. Only made it to Supervisor level, and seems like they were just closing it out because you are getting help from another source, failing to see the big picture. I don't blame you for avoiding Corsair in the future.


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I won't get into the cables... Yes true, 9 times out of 10 bending the hell out of cable won't do anything to it. However, my job deals with building of cables; power, signal, etc... Some of the cables we build can cost as much as $10,000 and we focus on every dB of loss through the cable, not just does it transmit or not... This has probably cause me to become over sensitive over the years to cables/cable management, etc... However, if you want to f@ck up your cables go ahead...I'll stick to my magical made up theory that bending/stressing metal is bad for it!
I don't doubt Mergatroid at all, I am sure the wires could take a lot of abuse. But I prefer not to take a chance, I have had data cables (IDE mostly and once SATA) go bad and do wonky things to my HDD. The reason I didn't mount my 3.5 devices side ways in the 5.25 bay like some suggested is because it looked like I would have to mash the power and data cables to fit.
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I am of two minds when it comes to case lighting. I admit it can look cool, and does make a case more interesting. On the other hand, running it 24/7 would be so gaudy.
I agree. I have built many cases over the years with various lighting especially UV effects with black lighting, but this is my first case with white LED's. Those pictures and video are dark, I didn't check my wife's camera settings, but in real life it's nice and bright inside yet soft enough to not be a bother. Plus all the lighting except the fans can be switched off or down a few notches.
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