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Originally Posted by Mergatroid View Post
Hmmm. I think you should experiment a little. There are lots of ways you could come up with for a positive pressure case. The fun in doing it is coming up with something you've designed yourself.

The positive pressure isn't just input RPM vs output RPM. You'll have to have a rough idea of how much air the fans will move. You want more pressure pushing into the case than pulling out. So, try and arrange the fans so that most of them are pushing air into the case. The front 200mm is 1, if you add one to the optical bays that's 2. If you're going to make the cpu cooler intake, that's effectively 3 intakes. You could have one large 200mm exhaust. That would give you less output than input for positive pressure. You may prefer two 120mm exhaust fans up top. Since you'll be using a fan controller you can go either way. The 120s might allow for better control, but the 200 would be fairly quiet.

As for the SilverStone case, it looks pretty nice. That style is not my personal cup of tea, but I can see how some people would really go for it. It's pretty different. I prefer the more standard design myself.



From the first page: "replaced them with one Noctua NF-S12B FLX at the back for exhaust and two of the same model at the top, as intake fans".

He has turned the case into positive pressure by converting the top into intake, but keeping the rear as exhaust. We are discussing something similar right now by regulating the exhaust flow out the top and converting the rear into an intake for a rad (H70).
Thanks Mergatroid, you made me kinda understand about setting my 600T into a positive-pressure case.

As for Silverstone FT-02, i just like the idea of positive pressure and the shape of the case. Sleek and elegant. But, there is something unexplainable that made me choose 600T better than that... still curious about it..

That's why I want my 600T to have a positive pressure in it..

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imo 600t is a downgrade from a FT02 esp from a cooling stand point
Hi patti88, i had a friend who begged me to trade my 600T with his FT02. He said that FT02 is kinda boring. Wonder why.....
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post #2312 of 18197
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@ mergatroid

so all the air exits out through a single rear exhaust fan that has been upgraded to the noctua? sorry for the confusion

ty for the clarification though
Yes it looks that way. This gives the case only one exhaust fan so pressure builds up inside forcing the rest of the air to exhaust out the seams, vents and any other small airways.
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i have an interesting question:
rheobus of 600T until the voltage can provide?
stand up a pump with a power consumption of 18W? +fan? for un MAX of 25W....
Edited by ste.ru - 7/12/11 at 12:14am
post #2314 of 18197
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If you use an aftermarket fan controller, you can set the RPMs to achieve any type of pressure you desire.

This actually gives me an idea. (excuse me if you get a burning smell) I would like to try an experiment whereby a separate fan controller was used so you can vary each fan individually. IF all the fans you are controlling have a lower power draw than what the built-in stock fan controller can handle, you could plug the the aftermarket controller into the stock controller and use the big knob on the top as a "master control" for all the fans. That way you could keep your positive pressure all the time while varying the air flow through the case. This would likely work best on a nice simple manual fan controller like this one:

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Product...9%28ME%29.aspx

It looks like it wouldn't use much power over what the fans would draw. If you're only using 3 or 4 fairly low power fans I think this would work great. However, if your fans pull a lot of juice this might kill the stock fan controller.

Anyways, sorry for that. I would pick an after market fan controller if I was you and use it to control the pressure in the case. Don't forget that a dust filter will cut down on your air flow.

I am using my H70 as exhaust for two reasons. 1. It does not pull outside dust in through the H70 and 2. I have video cards that exhaust out the back so I'm not pulling hot video card exhaust through my H70.

The other two fans in the rear are also exhaust. All of them are connected to an aftermarket fan controller except the H70 fans, which are connected to the CPU header. (I used PWM fans for my H70 and a PWM fan splitter).

Without a fan controller, the only way to make sure you have positive pressure is to try and calculate the air pressures based on the fan specs. This would not be entirely accurate due to the dust filters, mesh and grills. With a fan controller you can experiment on which RPMs for which fans achieve your desired result.



Hey, that's great to hear. Glad you got that figured out. That's what I went for with the PWM splitter and fans for my H70. I absolutely love the automatic control.



Looks good. I love the job you did on the switch.



http://www.memoryexpress.com/Product...4%28ME%29.aspx

I love having these guys a few blocks from me.

Here's the fan testing thread again for everyone asking about 120mm fans:

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...ng-thread.html

CeaserNYC, after I eat I'm going to try your fan mounting idea (now that my basement is dry). I will report my findings later tongiht
thanks man.

The switch is a useful addition to the case in that it allows me to play in complete darkness ;-)

Also, I am VERY pleased with my case temps at the moment. The ASUS 580 DIRECT CU II coolers are the real deal! I have mine in SLI and I kid you not, when playing FIFA 11 or benching using 3dmark 11, the fans don't run above 20% and the temp no higher than 55-60 degrees, STUNNING!
Edited by mikeyo - 7/12/11 at 2:16am
post #2315 of 18197
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Originally Posted by g.androider View Post
Hi, mikeyo...

Looking at your pics, I saw that you mount 2 pcs of 120mm fan on the front as a replacement to stock 200mm fan.

1. How do you mount it? Use a velcro or drill new hole?
2. What is the brand of the fan? Is it better compare to GT AP-15? 'cos I had 2 of them as spare.

PS: Mergatroid share his experienced about 2 page before that 25mm thick fan will not mount in the front while the HDD cage mount behind it, so he did a little mod on the HDD cage.

Thx..

I used Velcro to mount the fans and also 2 x screws to fix them to the front grill. The fans are Akasa Viper's and in my opinion quiet enough to shift a lot of air. I am using them for my H70 rad, top and bottom of the case and the temps are great.
post #2316 of 18197
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Hi, I'm the idiot.

The button on the pump unit is a bit different from a fan controller though. It sets a profile, and I figured that most people would find the profile they liked and stick with it. The profiles aren't a static fan speed like a fan controller would set, they're a range of fan speeds based on internal coolant temps.

Low - 900 RPM to 1300 RPM
Mid - 1300 RPM to 2000 RPM
High - 1600 RPM to 2600 RPM

If you want, you can use a standard aftermarket fan controller (like those built into some of our cases) and no harm, no foul. But if you think the idea was stupid, I'll take the blame.
First off I want to apologize for how I acted. I was frustrated by the fact that the H70 is pretty much gone as I thought I finally had my parts list set in stone. But that is no excuse for how I behaved and that is no excuse for insulting you and Corsair and I do honestly apologize.

Second I am sorry about jumping to conclusions before I had all the facts about the H80, that was a bonehead move on my part.

No need for you to take any blame at all as I was the one to blame for jumping to conclusions without having all the facts.

Corsair products have never let me down before so I doubt the H80 will let me down. So it looks like I will be getting the H80.

I do have a couple of questions about other Corsair products if you don't mind me asking.

Does any of the Desktop memory Corsair makes run at 2000mhz and be stable on a Crosshair IV Formula mobo? I ask as as I am unsure of if I should get 2000mhz or 1866mhz memory.

Second do you think Corsair will ever make it's own line of case fans? I ask because I would love to see really good purple LED fans that have higher RPM and CFM ratings, that will also last.

Anyway thank you for your time and again I am sorry about how I acted.
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Sadly I am not a fan of the H80. I hate the fact that some idiot at Corsair got the bright idea to put the fan controller for the H80 right on the cooler. Why the hell would I want to open my case every time I wanted to change the fan speed? Really stupid move on Corsair's part. So now I need to find a new cooler to buy.

It may be a feature you never utilize but as those have already pointed out, you can rig it up like an H70 and have the exact same functionality without fiddling with the nob on the CPU block. I would have preferred a software implementation for fan/pump control, unless Corsair Link module is exactly that? I believe Antec Kuhler series does have software to control or at least monitor, just in case your considering another cooler.
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Does any of the Desktop memory Corsair makes run at 2000mhz and be stable on a Crosshair IV Formula mobo? I ask as as I am unsure of if I should get 2000mhz or 1866mhz memory.

Second do you think Corsair will ever make it's own line of case fans? I ask because I would love to see really good purple LED fans that have higher RPM and CFM ratings, that will also last.
Corsair does make 2000MHz and up memory that would work with your board. There is no guarantee you will be able to hit the rated speed, because currently to go over 1600mhz you will have to over clock the FSB. A number of factors come into play, not just your memory. But it can't hurt to have 2000mhz memory, you will have more over clocking headroom, there is just the possibility another component on your rig will fall short before hitting the rated speed of your memory. If you wanted you could get a AMD FX processor this summer, they should run memory at 1866 natively without the need to OC (I believe your mobo will support it via bios update).
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CeaserNYC asked me to test out a fan placement at the backside
of the CPU. I have placed a 120mm fan in the CPU backplate access hole blowing air onto the back of the board. At his suggestion, just for the test, I let the mess of cables hold the fan up while I closed the hatch.
That's too bad. I think your results were impacted by closing the latch without creating a blowhole for it to draw air. In my trial run I simply compared temps with latch off @idle/load, and then again with latch off CPU socket fan @idle/load. A bunch of people have now tried this on the Crosshair V thread with impressive results.
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i have an interesting question:
rheobus of 600T until the voltage can provide?
stand up a pump with a power consumption of 18W? +fan? for un MAX of 25W....
I don't know the specs so I can't be sure but I would bet that if my after market 200mm fans could blow up my fan controller, 24watt max pump would eat the fan controller for lunch.
Edited by CesarNYC - 7/12/11 at 6:51am
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Is there enough clearance in a 600T + side panel fans for a Thermalright Silver Arrow cooler? I know it fits fine without the side panel fans, but I can't find any pictures or anything that help.
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Is there enough clearance in a 600T + side panel fans for a Thermalright Silver Arrow cooler? I know it fits fine without the side panel fans, but I can't find any pictures or anything that help.
I don't own a Silver Arrow, but based on pics posted earlier in this thread it looks like it just fits. With a fan in the upper left quadrant, I imagine you would have clearance issues. But you don't need to add 4, you could have just two over the GPU and have clearance for a monster heatsink.
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Ok so I decided to get the Coarsair H80 after apologizing to Corsair George in an earlier post, so you would think my parts list was finally set in stone right?

Wrong, now I find out that the graphics cards I want are discontinued. Every time I turn around a part on my list get's discontinued. This has happened before. I originally wanted 2 sets 2X4GB 2000mhz G.Skill Flare series memory but nowhere to be found in this part of the world.

Do any of you have good suggestions on AMD 6970 GPU's that are factory overclocked like the PowerColor PCS+ 6970's were?
    
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