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Been slowly working on mine since I last reported in.

And sorry about the glare in some photos..








I still love working in this case.. although its getting cramped.
It's the little details that you took the time to put in that makes this a cut above the rest. I won't see my rheosmart6 till tomorrow but looks like it will mate up well with the case. Did you remove the corsair emblem on the front fan dust filter?
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My water cooling stuff just showed up :O buuuut Im at work though for 4.5 hours still

Im a bit worried what If my 47mm thick rad will fit at top though, havnt seen anyone but RS240 installed but that's only 10mm thinner, we will see I guess
I don't want to trample on your hopes and dreams but either your ram or your eatx plugs will obstruct your rad. Even 35mm is pushing it. Not saying it's impossible (I never would have believed a 480 would fit up front until someone did it), but it will take some skillful modding.
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Allrighty, I will enter the data in the Bat-Computer and see what it spits out.

Also, I noticed this today. I know some of you will faint when you read the part about removing the dust filter.....
Cool. TYVM.

As for the mod there. You're right, I would rather have the dust filter. Personally I find it sort of funny because he didn't have to remove the dust filer at all. Again, personally, I would have put it in one of the drive bays instead of blocking some of the front air flow.

I really got a laugh when I saw his soldering iron. Looks like a Radio Shack special.

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So I looked over the data. First thing that needs to be noted is the data pool is too small to have a high degree of confidence, to say the least. Also I am not sure which fans are which, i think we need an updated pic which explains which fan is which.

Looking past that, you can see that some of the data is as expected, other is a bit confusing. The Intake fans and Exhaust fans have the greatest impact, though the relationship between intake 1 and intake 2 is not as clean and tidy as the relationship between Exhaust 1 and 2. Slowing down either one of the intake fans had the same effect as slowing down both at the same time, which is not what I would have expected. Might need more trials to see what type of relationship these intake fans have.

For the GPU, intake fan 2 had the greatest impact on temps. The exhaust results are a bit confusing, as I would have expected both exhaust at 50% would have more of an impact then each individual fans results.

I think we need more data.......
The fans are numbered in the picture. I don't think I can do better than that???

I agree, some of the data is strange. I was as surprised as you when I saw some of the results.

I was fiddling with by BIOS because of the clock resetting issue. I reset my bios and redid all my settings. I found that I had increased the voltage of my CPU to 1.25000V (I think it started at 1.23700). I put it back at stock and have been running and testing it today. The temps are better by about five degrees but I haven't tortured it for as long as I was testing it previously. Of course the problem is how long it takes to do all those tests.

I will retest again but it will have to wait for tomorrow night. I want to do it again with the overclock and the new voltage setting. I would also like to bring my DVM home with the temperature probe and get a better ambient closer to the case. I have been using the temp off my digital thermostat for my furnace. It's on the wall but not close enough to the case to feel the heat it's giving off. It gives me a true "room temperature" but it's a lot warmer where I'm sitting. Which would you think is better for an Ambient? Since the intake for fresh air is at the front and bottom and not at the top where the heat is, I had thought the furnace digital thermostat was OK.

Do you think there may be a better method? I had done the all-fans 50% first, then turned all the fans to 100% for 30 minutes. After that, every time I changed a fan speed for testing I would run for 15 minutes. That was enough to see that the temps had stabilized. When testing the next fan, I would turn the last one up to 100%, the new one to 50% and run for another 15 minutes. Do you think I should run all fans 100% for a time before the next test? I didn't think it would matter since the 15 minutes per fan was providing a stable temp during the last 5 minutes or so. This is a lot of sitting around staring at stuff so you don't miss the times.

I could do a better method, but it would add a lot more time to the testing. I could go: Idle 30 mins, 50% all fans loaded 30 mins, 100% all fans loaded 30 mins. Fan 1 test 15 mins, 100% all fans loaded 15 mins, fan 2 test 15 mins, 100% all fans loaded 15 mins, fan 3 test 15 mins, 100% all fans loaded 15 mins, fan 4 test 15 mins, 100% all fans loaded 15 mins, fan group 5 test 15 mins.

You can see the extra amount of time that letting the system stabilize at 100% fans loaded between fan tests will add overall.

I was thinking that, when changing from one fan test to the next, the system would stabilize without having to "reset" it with all fans 100% loaded first. (I was thinking about this while I was testing, but the extra time was just too much).

I'm going to start a full round of testing at 100% after I eat just to see if there's a difference with the lower voltage (and to make sure everything is stable). I'll post the result.

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That's a nice monitor. I have the version with the web cam on top. I think you'll like it.

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Thank you both. I was planning on grabbing a couple Yate Loons high speed and they are only 3.6W each.
I can't speak to what Corsair says about the fan controller, but I can say 12W per channel seems way too high to me. I've seen people kill their controller with a lot less than that. CesarNYC had two NZXT 200mm fans connected to it and they killed the fan controller. They're 8.4W (unless he connected them to the same channel). I've seen other people complain about the same thing. IMO it's not a very good controller and I wouldn't use any more than four fans on it, and I would make sure they are all low power (at least as low as the stock fans).

Anyone else want to speak up here before he kills his brand new controller?

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Originally Posted by albedokirra View Post
Been slowly working on mine since I last reported in.
I still love working in this case.. although its getting cramped.
That looks fantastic man. Uh, isn't the panel with the window on the wrong side of the case?
Edited by Mergatroid - 8/4/11 at 6:08pm
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Anyone else want to speak up here before he kills his brand new controller?
Been running 8 fans on mine for over a month now with no problems. Just because a few people had a faulty unit doesn't mean everyone will.
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I would have put it in one of the drive bays instead of blocking some of the front air flow.
that's a good idea, I have one lying around.....

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What would you think is better for an Ambient? Since the intake for fresh air is at the front and bottom and not at the top where the heat is, I had thought the furnace digital thermostat was OK.
I use a temp probe connected to my mobo, taped against the front intake dust filter.

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Do you think there may be a better method?
Maybe, let me think it over


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I can't speak to what Corsair says about the fan controller, but I can say 12W per channel seems way too high to me. I've seen people kill their controller with a lot less than that. CesarNYC had two NZXT 200mm fans connected to it and they killed the fan controller. They're 8.4W (unless he connected them to the same channel). I've seen other people complain about the same thing. IMO it's not a very good controller and I wouldn't use any more than four fans on it, and I would make sure they are all low power (at least as low as the stock fans).

Anyone else want to speak up here before he kills his brand new controller?
I had mine set up originally with my H70 (stock) fans and two NZXT 200mm fans, so four fans, one on each fan header. Worked for a day or so, then never more. On a side note I did try to go through the RMA process for it, just to see what they would say. Despite what I have read in other forums, they do not ship a fan controller separately. They may ship you a whole new case, assuming that the product manager ever gets to looking over your claim and agrees. I have heard great things about Corsair warranty service, but I have yet to see anything yet worthy of praise.
Edited by CesarNYC - 8/4/11 at 7:18pm
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As you are probably guessing.. it is the RS240 which I believe is 35mm thick. The gap is pretty much nonexistent as I actually had to cut the clip on the 8pin plug for it to fit. The heatsinks at the top are maybe 5mm away from the rad and finally the ram clips have enough space for my fingers to wedge behind and remove the sticks.

It is pretty tight up there but that may be just due to my choice of motherboard.
I had to do the same thing to my 8pin connector. Must be an Asus thing. Also how did you get your tubing to glow so bright without any light on?? Or do you have a UV light on and done something funky with a camera. In a lot of the pictures the tubing looks fake. But I really like it, great job.

What type of tubing and sleeving did you use??


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I won't see my rheosmart6 till tomorrow but looks like it will mate up well with the case. Did you remove the corsair emblem on the front fan dust filter?
I love the look of the Rheosmart6, stealth'd dvd drive, and a stealth'd inverted hdd cages. As for the emblem, I just painted it black but for some reason it shows up as if I shopped it out.

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...Uh, isn't the panel with the window on the wrong side of the case?
Haha.. I forgot to take a nice pic of my full side which is a full smoke gray acrylic sheet. The one you see on the other side is my first try at a cut window so I just recycled it to the other side of the rig.

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...Also how did you get your tubing to glow so bright without any light on?? Or do you have a UV light on and done something funky with a camera. In a lot of the pictures the tubing looks fake. But I really like it, great job.

What type of tubing and sleeving did you use??
The combination of hidden cathodes, camera angles, and the smoked acrylic do a good job of making sure the only thing that glows is the tube. No photoshop work required

I used Feser .5/.75 UV Caribbean Blue tubing and the new FTW black and cobalt blue sleeving.

These are from a few incarnations ago but it shows the side panel and lighting better..


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that's a good idea, I have one lying around.....


I use a temp probe connected to my mobo, taped against the front intake dust filter.


Maybe, let me think it over



I had mine set up originally with my H70 (stock) fans and two NZXT 200mm fans, so four fans, one on each fan header. Worked for a day or so, then never more. On a side note I did try to go through the RMA process for it, just to see what they would say. Despite what I have read in other forums, they do not ship a fan controller separately. They may ship you a whole new case, assuming that the product manager ever gets to looking over your claim and agrees. I have heard great things about Corsair warranty service, but I have yet to see anything yet worthy of praise.
Well, I suppose I was a little hard on the controller. In an otherwise great case it still is the weak point. I don't think anyone should overestimate it's abilities. However, I'm sure most people with this case have no problems with it.

I just completed a retest and it's odd. The temps have increased when they should have decreased with the decrease in cpu voltage from 1.25000 to 1.23750 (which is what the BIOS says is stock). I was taken aback so I redid the test a second time and the results were the same. The case fans are all 100% and the H70 fans are also at 100%. Clock in both tests was 3.3GHz.

The ambient tonight is 26c. Vcpu=1.25000V in the first test, and Vcpu=1.23750V in the second test.

Vcpu=1.25000V Average CPU Temp: 51.75c


Vcpu=1.23750V Average CPU Temp: 54.75c


Add 1c for a higher ambient and we have an increase of 2c which is not what I expected at all. If anything I thought there would be a temp decrease. Since we need another dataset anyway, I will do another round tomorrow after work.
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That's a nice monitor. I have the version with the web cam on top. I think you'll like it.
Actually I am loving the monitor. It showed up exactly 24 hours after I ordered it along with the memory I ordered. Gotta love living in California where NewEgg is based.

I have my PS3 hooked up to the monitor at the moment since I don't have all my computer parts yet.
    
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I don't want to trample on your hopes and dreams but either your ram or your eatx plugs will obstruct your rad. Even 35mm is pushing it. Not saying it's impossible (I never would have believed a 480 would fit up front until someone did it), but it will take some skillful modding.
I was playing around with it yesterday and found that indeed it is to thick, but I found a way to mount it on the top about 1-2cm to the left (if looking at case from front) so it will stay up there, now the fans wont line up 100% but I think it wont be enough to make a significant difference.

Another problem I had is my fittings (1/2ID 3/4OD compression) don't fit into my EK150 reservoir because they are so wide and the res has a lip on the bottom that blocks them from screwing in all the way, so have to order some spacers for that, sucks I wont be able to work on it this weekend now tho
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this is a mid tower correct?
 
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