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post #3211 of 18197
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Thatsa highly subjective and subject to personal opinion along with the flawed interpretation of what is "quiet" and what is "noisy"
I understand that, But to me its not noisy.
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Woo, my case should be here tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post
The stock fan controller varies from 7V to 12V, so it's about 60%-100%.

Anything less than that could be below the startup or operational voltage of a lot of aftermarket fans.

It might be possible to replace the pot, but of course you'd void the warranty of the I/O panel devices.
This must be with the "updated" fan controller, because the original 600T was closer to 9V at 0% on the knob, at least as tested by Compudaze, one of our club members.
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post #3214 of 18197
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I decided to sacrifice some silence in the name of cooler temps so I picked up some new fans.

I took the side panel to work and machined another 140mm hole next to the existing one and fitted two Scythe SM1425SL12H's in place of the one Noctua NF-P14 FLX


I swapped the rear NF-P12 with a Turbine Master Mach 1.8.


Surprisingly it's not that much louder then my previous setup, but the temps are much lower.
Your system is really looking great, and I love that Turbine Master Mach 1.8 fan. It has a real industrial look to it.

How much have your temps improved by?

Can anyone here tell me what the difference between push and pull would be on a rad like the H100? Someone was asking about it, and although I know push is supposed to be more efficient, I was wondering if anyone has ever tested push vs pull on a rad?

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So I was able to get my 600t SE from Microcenter open box for 100 dollars after a 20 percent off coupon I found on this forum Funny thing was, the thing was brand new! The cashier told me she handled the return on this unit and the owner never used it! Awesome! I actually returned my 650d for this case, but to be honest the look is really growing on me.
Quick question, does anyone know if the NZXT LED strip in white, matches the color of the LEDs that come with the stock fans?
Wow, I'm jealous. What a great find. What was it you didn't like about the 650D? I have a bit of a crush on that case atm.

As for the NZXT White LED strips, I can't say for sure but I would think white should match white. I wouldn't be surprised to find they used the same LEDs.

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Oh Corsair George, any suggestions for touch up paint? I found some light scratchs on my replacement cases inner panel and it makes me sad looking at them through window
Sweet build you have there. As for touchup paint, when I put my first 600T build together I painted the rear chrome plate and the slot cover on my video card with Dupli-Color Honda Graphite Pearl automotive paint. I couldn't tell the difference between my case and the rear expansion card covers. dupli-color.com

I used spray paint but I bet they have those little bottles of touchup paint too.

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Agreed, I already did some research and found a place that can do it for like $95 (your currency) and best of all they are quite close to where I live. They will use 10mm thick acrylic/plexiglass and lasercut it.

The only concerns I have is to get the true shape correct is not as easy as you would think. The problem is that since the stock panel is not the same thickness right through and it is "curvy" as CyberDruid mentioned, you cannot just bargain on a paper trace template to work from to create an acrylic replacement that is the same thickness right through (10mm).
How would they be able to get the template correct?
Yes, the convex nature of the side panels has always made me wonder if the acrylic panels are flat or are they also convex? I would take a stock side panel in to the shop so they can have a look at it. I'm wondering if they could use the laser to cut the outside of the panel curved/convex but leave the inside flat? This would in effect vary the thickness of the panel so it would be thick in the centre and slightly thinner at the edges. It seems a laser should be able to handle that.

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Ah I get it, so my fans look like they are robbing a bank. Sounds awesome.
Lol, CesarNYC made a funny....
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Can anyone here tell me what the difference between push and pull would be on a rad like the H100? Someone was asking about it, and although I know push is supposed to be more efficient, I was wondering if anyone has ever tested push vs pull on a rad?.......
Depends on what speed. Here is a quote from Martins's Lab

"Push Vs Pull - This depends on fan speed/power. The high speed fans at 2000RPM with a 38mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a push condition. The slow speed fans with 1350RPM with a 25mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a pull condition. I would estimate that performance line is likely to cross in the 1500-1700RPM range where they are equal. So.... slow speed = pull, high speed = push, medium speed = it doesn't really matter."

Chock full of good info. Since you can vary the speed of the fans, I guess it depends on what speed you are going to run your H100 at.
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Your system is really looking great, and I love that Turbine Master Mach 1.8 fan. It has a real industrial look to it.

How much have your temps improved by?

Thanks. With the Deltas at 40%, idle temps on the CPU went down 5c and my GPUs idle temps decreased by 6c on the top card and 7c on the bottom card. NB and SB temps went down ~4c. I'll be doing some load testing with Prime95 and Furmark this weekend so I can re-adjust my fan speed curves.

The catch with the Deltas is that when you get above a certain RPM, the round perforation grill between the fans and the radiator makes a whining sound. I'll eventually cut out that section with a Dremel when I acquire enough ambition to tear down my entire rig.
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Heres my sleeving from psychosleeve:
I ordered some extensions from ftwpc. You can find their forum here @Overclock.net
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I ordered some extensions from ftwpc. You can find their forum here @Overclock.net
Let's see how they turn out
Rather have a full sleeved PSU.

As for extensions, I'd rather get mod/smart extensions.

I have some for sale actually (2 black and 2 red).
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Depends on what speed. Here is a quote from Martins's Lab

"Push Vs Pull - This depends on fan speed/power. The high speed fans at 2000RPM with a 38mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a push condition. The slow speed fans with 1350RPM with a 25mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a pull condition. I would estimate that performance line is likely to cross in the 1500-1700RPM range where they are equal. So.... slow speed = pull, high speed = push, medium speed = it doesn't really matter."

Chock full of good info. Since you can vary the speed of the fans, I guess it depends on what speed you are going to run your H100 at.
Oh joy, more variables to consider when deciding on intake/exhaust/push/pull.

Since I have push/pull I don't have to worry much about it. However, the person I was discussing this with was using the H100 as exhaust/pull in the 600T. I was thinking, given the choice, that I would likely choose intake/push over exhaust/pull.

See, something doesn't quite add up here. Corsair has tested push/pull vs push on the H100 and they only got a difference of 1c. The link article says "Just like doubling up with a pump, there is a pressure benefit to doubling up on fans and this translates to about a 20-30% performance gain.", which does not jive with Corsair's findings. I have to assume that the radiator thickness and fins per inch are entering into this equation, as well as the thickness of the fans. I think there is a problem here by comparing 38mm high speed fans with 25mm low speed fans. This adds uncertainty to his findings.

However I will pass the article along so the guy can decide for himself.
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I'm still trying to figure how to get the best airflow from this case as I was amazed at how much my temps drop by opening up the side panel. I may have to delegate the built in fan controller to exhausts fans only and control the front and possible side panel with something else. With just the twin 200mm fans going at same speed via the onboard controller, i'm not getting any push or pull effect for the most part. Temps arn't bad, but they could be better...

May get a 120mm fan/HDD mount cage for more intake direclty to mobo or just modify the window to accept a 200mm fan or go with screen mesh instead. I guess having options is a good thing
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