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Hello allz..

So I am an avid reader of Atomic magazine here in Australia since it's inception, they are all about modding and water cooling. Anyway I have been reading through this board for about two weeks now and have a question.

I have a Corsair 600T Graphite. I am on the verge of upgrading to..

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cpuIntel i7 2600k

I currently have all the front drive bays in the 600T full with an optical and three hot-swap drive bays. Have an ATI HD6970 onboard and a Corsair AX1200 PSU.


I was sold on the Corsair Hydro series for cooling the i7 2600k, but all this EK and Koolace chatter has me excited!


My current thoughts are mounting a 240-rad on the inside front, drawing air inward.. PLUS.. a 120-rad on the rear drawing air inward.. THEN.. replacing the top 200-fan with some top-of-the-range twin 120-fans, drawing air out of the case.. the idea being hot air goes up-and-out!

I'm also of the thought that I will get the Mnpctech full clear side panel for the 600T and have holes pre-drilled for mounting big tube reservoir(s) on the inside of the panel, with Dripless QDs for the reservoir(s) for removing the panel in transit for my regular LAN day out and easy access inside the case when required.

Finally it strikes me as suitable to have two reservoirs, ONE for the CPU 120-rad loop and ANOTHER for the GPU (ATI 6970) 240-rad loop.. OR.. Have the CPU and the GPU on the 240-rad loop and use a heat exchange plate on the 120-rad loop.. I am a home brewer and use heat exchange plate on my beer brewing setup and therefore know those plates are highly effective at bringing boiling liquid down to 20'C very quickly..

So, the questions..

1. Is the inward and outward draws of cool and warm air okay or daft?

2. What's the thoughts on having dual loops, and what do you think about the heat exchanger loop idea?

Cheers!
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1. Depends on your setup really. Some people get better temps that way, I am the opposite. 240 rad in the top as intake, 120mm exhaust on back, 120mm intake in 5.25 bays, 200mm intake fans.


2. Understand you will have to mod your case by either cutting your bottom 5.25 bay or cutting your case floor to fit a 240 rad in the front of the case.

There is absolutely no need for a dual loop on this system. You aren't running enough to justify it(use the space saved to make room for more rads,) that being said, you will need at least 2 240 and most likely more to properly cool this system (if oc'ing.) I would run a 240 in the top and a 200 in the front on 1 loop. If that wasn't enough rad cooling, would then add either 2-240s in the door mesh or 240x240 in the door.

Person I would talk to is CesarNYC, his w/c loop is incredible.

Heat exchanger could be a fun idea though, it would be interesting to see how it performs.


By the way..thanks for the reps today!!! Not sure who left them but they are greatly appreciated.
Edited by longroadtrip - 10/5/11 at 10:07pm
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Originally Posted by atomicfr33x View Post
Hello allz..

So I am an avid reader of Atomic magazine here in Australia since it's inception, they are all about modding and water cooling. Anyway I have been reading through this board for about two weeks now and have a question.

I have a Corsair 600T Graphite. I am on the verge of upgrading to..

moboASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3 Motherboard

ramCorsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3

ssdCorsair Force Series 3 120GB SSD [x2 RAID-0]

cpuIntel i7 2600k

I currently have all the front drive bays in the 600T full with an optical and three hot-swap drive bays. Have an ATI HD6970 onboard and a Corsair AX1200 PSU.


I was sold on the Corsair Hydro series for cooling the i7 2600k, but all this EK and Koolace chatter has me excited!


My current thoughts are mounting a 240-rad on the inside front, drawing air inward.. PLUS.. a 120-rad on the rear drawing air inward.. THEN.. replacing the top 200-fan with some top-of-the-range twin 120-fans, drawing air out of the case.. the idea being hot air goes up-and-out!

I'm also of the thought that I will get the Mnpctech full clear side panel for the 600T and have holes pre-drilled for mounting big tube reservoir(s) on the inside of the panel, with Dripless QDs for the reservoir(s) for removing the panel in transit for my regular LAN day out and easy access inside the case when required.

Finally it strikes me as suitable to have two reservoirs, ONE for the CPU 120-rad loop and ANOTHER for the GPU (ATI 6970) 240-rad loop.. OR.. Have the CPU and the GPU on the 240-rad loop and use a heat exchange plate on the 120-rad loop.. I am a home brewer and use heat exchange plate on my beer brewing setup and therefore know those plates are highly effective at bringing boiling liquid down to 20'C very quickly..

So, the questions..

1. Is the inward and outward draws of cool and warm air okay or daft?

2. What's the thoughts on having dual loops, and what do you think about the heat exchanger loop idea?

Cheers!
Greetings fellow 600t water cooler. Welcome to the fringe of 600T cooling. To answer your questions:
1. I would orientate the rads and fan directions exactly as you described. The rads will perform best drawing cool air in and using the top two 120s exhausting air out will keep your mobo from suffering any ill effects. I use a similar set up.

2.Dual loops can have advantages when heavily over clocking multiple components, but with your rad set up it may be tricky. First, you are going to need multiple pumps and reservoirs, which means more cost. They do sell some nice looking dual loop koolance bay res/pump combos, or you could find space for two pumps and two separate reservoirs (I really like your idea about the reservoirs hooked up to a clear side panel), but finding the space and making it look good can be a challenge. Also with the dual loop (parallel set up) you lose the advantage of having a back up pump in case one of them goes down (series set up), if one pump dies you could loose either the GPU or the CPU. The good news with a dual loop is your GPU over clock will not impact your CPU and vice versa, so you might be able to push your 24/7 OC further on your rig.

I would like to see what you mean by heat exchange plate for the CPU, as many types of coolers have heat exchange plates. Also, I am with Longroadtrip, if you have access to a 200mm rad like the Phobya, I would use that in lieu of a 240mm rad up front. First because a 200mm rad will perform better then a single 240mm rad, and second because it won't require any mods other then mounting the fans to the case. Now if you don't have access to the 200mm rad, don't like the 200mm fan selection, or you just want to mod the front for fun , I would say go big and mod two 240 rads up front. I have seen it done and it looked pretty awesome.

As far as your rad distribution, I think 240mm of rad per water block is the generally accepted goal to shoot for. You can do the same thing with less rad but it might require louder pump setting or fans.

Sounds like you are going to be putting together a truly unique build, please keep us posted on your progress.
Edited by CesarNYC - 10/6/11 at 12:29am
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Even with just one set of fans, the H100 still beats the H80 by a couple of degrees. According to Corsair, using push/pull on an H100 will only make a 1 or 2c difference anyway. If you have the 600T case, go with the H100. You won't be sorry. (note, the H80 uses push/pull because it has a thicker rad). With one set of good fans (like the stock fans) there are no issues with the H100 since it doesn't need push/pull.

As for a significant temp difference, there's no such thing between the hydro coolers. If you're looking for a 10c difference, you're not going to see it. When I switched from an H70 push/pull to an H100 push/pull, both mounted in the top of my case as exhaust, I got a 7c decrease in temps documented here...
I already requested pricing and stock from my supplier for the H100. I did mention to them to look and see if the have the batch/lot code that has the faulty fan controller or not.
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I placed my H100 on order. Will probably get it tomorrow. Did confirm with the supplier that they don't have the batch with faulty fan controllers in stock
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Greetings fellow 600t water cooler. Welcome to the fringe of 600T cooling.
thanks for the assistance and the warm greeting.. very kind!
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FYI, even though the Bitfenix 200mm fans fit in the 600T, they are crap... 600 RPM and barely enough air to move a piece of paper. I returned them and ordered a pair of Xigmatek's from Newegg.

The Bitfenix 120's are pretty decent though and the white LED spectre's match the stock white 200mm fans near perfectly.
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if you have access to a 200mm rad like the Phobya, I would use that in lieu of a 240mm rad up front.
hey hey.. I see where you're headed.. I saw a 200mm rad in your rig photos and went Googling.. of course I quickly side stepped the Antec 200mm (should actually erase it from my search history) and soon discovered the Phobya Xtreme 200.. BOOM!! purrrfect..

on the same site i found the MagiCool SLIM SINGLE 120 Elegant Plexi series radiator Rev. 2 and there's a (240mm version too)

btw I luv the hiding of the SSD behind the drive trays.. ur build is now my desktop wallpaper
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can't wait to see what you do with your 600t, should be very interesting!

@Robilar...the xiggy's are basically the same thing as the Corsair fans...made by the same manufacturer...I've been running them in mine since April.
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