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post #3891 of 18196
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Originally Posted by JAM3S121;15353450 
I'm going to be buying a 600t SE soon and I was wondering

Can a h100 fit? if so how.. do the fans need to be on the top of the rad pulling air in?


I have a gtx 560 ti and it doesn't get very hot in my current case but I'm looking at a gtx 580 soon, the card shouldn't get too hot right?

I want to be able to mount a h100 on the top and keep the stock exhaust and front fans just hoping I wouldn't need more cooling then this I want a pretty quiet case.

TD has the 600T for 120 bucks with free shipping right now. Not sure if it is the same for the SE version or not. I figured I would post this here for the ones who have yet to buy one.
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post #3892 of 18196
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Originally Posted by PathOfTheRighteousMan;15353539 
Being a corsair case it has to be able to fit a H100, I have the H100 in mine, see above.

I've dumped the 2 included fans for 4 Zalman ZF1225 CSF fans. Looks and performs better. I used 2 screws per fan (only 8 screws are provided)

Right now it's set as a Pull setup because the motherboard I'm using doesn't allow for fans inside the case under the rad, but a P67 Sabertooth will allow for it, which is what will eventually be in the case.

So you're pulling the air into the case right? I assume that's what most people do with the 600t and h100.

What about fans.. how loud are they? Is it really worth buying ap-15's or whatever fans people buy to replace them?
post #3893 of 18196
From what I can see there is a backlash against replacing the Corsair fans completely. A lot of the people who changed to 4x AP15's/Cougars etc in push/pull have reverted back to using the two corsair fans for the reasons outlined a few posts ago. ie The aforementioned fans are a bit quieter than the Corsair and move similar amounts of air on Low, but thats it. Maxed out they are no better than the corsair on low. What the corsairs bring to the table is headroom.

Someone can explain it better than me.

So what some are doing is putting the corsairs back on as push fans connected to the pumps fan controller and leaving two of their AP15's as pull connected to the cases fan controller. They adjust the AP's to a volume they are happy with. What this means is that the AP15's adjusted to be quiet are still aiding cooling which means the pump connected corsairs don't kick into a higher rpm as quickly/easily, ie they'll stay on low more of the time where they are nearly as quiet as the AP15's but when needed they will kick into higher gear. Replace the corsairs with all AP15's and there is no high gear to kick into.
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post #3894 of 18196
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Originally Posted by JAM3S121;15354243 
So you're pulling the air into the case right? I assume that's what most people do with the 600t and h100.

What about fans.. how loud are they? Is it really worth buying ap-15's or whatever fans people buy to replace them?

I have a custom loop and I have a 240 up there with my fans under the top mesh as intake. So yes you can do it that way, or just flip the fans to make them exhaust. It really depends on your setup which is best.

I am not sure about how good the H100 fans are, because I have never owned any. But I can highly recommend PWM control fans if you do replace them. My fans go from about 1780RPM at 68C full load(fans can go to 2000RPM) to about 650RPM at idle. When idling I cant hear my rig and it has no external lights on. At full load crunching BOINC on CPU and GPU all day/night, I can easily sleep 3 feet away.

As for fan brands, I love my Akasa Viper/Apache fans. I have some Gentle Typhoons on the way via a Group Buy, cant wait to find out why everyone recommends them. Scythe make some good fans as well.

Are you looking for performance or acoustic properties??

EDIT: what FPI is the H100?? If it is a low count, then there is no need for higher speed fans. While if it is a high FPI count, then high speed fans are a lot better choice.
Edited by goodtobeking - 10/18/11 at 9:27am
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post #3895 of 18196
Guys, I've applied some vinyl on my side panel. This is how it looks:
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This is just an experiment to make me familiar in applying the carbon, because the vinyl just came in this day. As you can see, I accidentally scratch some surface on the bottom side. I'll re-apply the surface tomorrow, part by part..
It looks pretty amazing actually...
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post #3896 of 18196
I have a 600t with a H100. H100 fits nicely at the top, and you put the fans on top of the case under the mesh. Also the H100 fans are very loud. They are just as loud, if not louder than my gpu fan. I switched to AP-15's and like them a lot better.
 
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Originally Posted by vitality;15355260 
I have a 600t with a H100. H100 fits nicely at the top, and you put the fans on top of the case under the mesh. Also the H100 fans are very loud. They are just as loud, if not louder than my gpu fan. I switched to AP-15's and like them a lot better.

I think the main issue is that the 600T's mesh severely affects noise and cooling ability when fans for the H100 are installed underneath. After removing the mesh the fans are much quieter and cool much better. It kind of sucks because I like my 600T, but I'm considering getting something else as a result.
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Originally Posted by JAM3S121;15354243 
So you're pulling the air into the case right? I assume that's what most people do with the 600t and h100.

What about fans.. how loud are they? Is it really worth buying ap-15's or whatever fans people buy to replace them?

No, I mean that the fans are pulling are out on top of the Heatsink, air being pulled from the inside out the top from the top fans, I make it sound complicated when it isnt. If I had fans on the inside of the case on the heatsink then i'd set them up to push air out. I really need 4 fans, but 2 are doing an ok job, never gone above 29'C on 100% load. but thats on a Dual core athlon running 2.5Ghz

The stock fans are really loud but push a lot of air, I took out every fan that came with the case, except for the front fan. I'll replace that with an Antec Big boy, and the others will be a mix of Zalman and Antec 120mm.
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I think the main issue is that the 600T's mesh severely affects noise and cooling ability when fans for the H100 are installed underneath. After removing the mesh the fans are much quieter and cool much better. It kind of sucks because I like my 600T, but I'm considering getting something else as a result.

Get yourself a dremel and remove the plastic support under the mesh. Remove the inner most support and leave only the bordering plastic on the edge of the mesh.

It makes it fit nicer and runs cooler and quieter
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Originally Posted by Calibos;15354851 
From what I can see there is a backlash against replacing the Corsair fans completely. A lot of the people who changed to 4x AP15's/Cougars etc in push/pull have reverted back to using the two corsair fans for the reasons outlined a few posts ago. ie The aforementioned fans are a bit quieter than the Corsair and move similar amounts of air on Low, but thats it. Maxed out they are no better than the corsair on low. What the corsairs bring to the table is headroom.

Someone can explain it better than me.

So what some are doing is putting the corsairs back on as push fans connected to the pumps fan controller and leaving two of their AP15's as pull connected to the cases fan controller. They adjust the AP's to a volume they are happy with. What this means is that the AP15's adjusted to be quiet are still aiding cooling which means the pump connected corsairs don't kick into a higher rpm as quickly/easily, ie they'll stay on low more of the time where they are nearly as quiet as the AP15's but when needed they will kick into higher gear. Replace the corsairs with all AP15's and there is no high gear to kick into.

I think you did a good job of explaining. For that size radiator, for that thickness, using the stock Corsair fans are the best choice for performance. Now if you want to experiment with different noise profiles AP15s are great; but they are 1850 rpm fans, and therefore can't move the same amount of air as the stock H100 fans. AP15s are great noise to CFM ratio fans, but you have to pair them with the right loop for it to be optimal.
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I think the main issue is that the 600T's mesh severely affects noise and cooling ability when fans for the H100 are installed underneath. After removing the mesh the fans are much quieter and cool much better. It kind of sucks because I like my 600T, but I'm considering getting something else as a result.

For the serious Watercooler, saying goodbye to the 600T is inevitable.
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post #3900 of 18196
Just pulled the trigger on the 600T white graphite case at Tiger. Will I be happy with this case? Is the air flow excellent compared to what I have now? I'm pretty happy about doing this. I've been looking at cases for awhile now and this one captured my attention. smile.gif
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