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Originally Posted by Devious Dog View Post

Well I am not going to put anything else down the bottom of the case, so I thought there would be loads of room for a AX1200, i just did'nt want to get caught short on power. But then I will not be running any Optical Drives or 3.5"HDD internally, as I store all data on my NAS and will use an external slimline USB Blue Ray drive, and one SSD 240GB internally which is more than enough.
I guess I could get away with Corsair AX850 Gold Power Supply but not sure about the connectors, 6x 6+2 PCI-E, 16x SATA, 12x Molex on the AX1200 or 4x 6+2 PCI-E, 12x SATA, 8x Molex on the AX850.

Stick with the 1200W if you really like it. I was just mentioning how it's overkill for your build and how large they are. They're sweet PSUs though, and as you said there's no harm in having an overabundance of power. The cards you have selected draw less power than what I'm running now though, so I see no need for such a large expensive psu. If money is no object, and you're not concerned about the space, then go for it.
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Alright so... If I want to put my H100 up top as an exhaust, which is the best option I assume. Do I have to take my stock 200mm fan out of there? Then add my 2 120mm fans on top of my case. Thanks everyone!

Yes, you have to remove the stock 200mm fan. Note, exhaust isn't the "best" option, I just selected it because I don't like having to clean out the rad. If you don't mind cleaning the rad when you do your case cleaning, when by all means use intake. In either case, the system mounts the same. Rad inside the case up top where the old 200mm fan used to be, and the fans in the fan compartment under the top cover. Changing from intake or exhaust is as simple as flipping the fans over.

Yes, you can leave your rear fan as exhaust as well. I don't personally recommend making any unfiltered fan intake.

As for "hot air goes upward", please note for everyone, that the force behind making hot air go up is very weak and basically not a factor in case airflow design since it's very easy for fans to overcome that force. In fact, Corsair George has mentioned a basic airflow design for cases using video cards that exhaust hot air into the case. In this design, the H100 on top is used as intake and the front 200mm fan as exhaust to draw all the hot air out the front of the case.

http://www.overclock.net/t/831636/official-corsair-graphite-club/2010#post_13976813
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Originally Posted by fester99 View Post

This setup is ok but i doubt it will provide positive pressure. Problem with the 600t case is that it has sooo many holes in it especially the back where the PCI card covers are slotted and there are 2 hose holes. If you want a positive pressure you will have to make the top an intake as well.

As I have stated many times in this forum, I can control the pressure in my case, positive or negative, depending on how I set the RPM of the fans in my case. I have replaced my intake fan with a 166 CFM NZXT fan, but having a rad over the top exhaust should considerably reduce the airflow out the top. If the rear 120mm fan is controlled, it should be fairly easy to achieve positive pressure by increasing the RPM of the 200mm intake fan, and reducing the RPM of the rear exhaust fan. I have tested this using smoke and can easily tell when my adjustments cause a change from positive to negative pressure. As long as the air going in is more than the air exiting, you have positive pressure. Add 2 x 120mm fans partially blocked by a rad (H100) plus the one 120mm exhaust. If that's less than the 200mm intake fan, then you have positive pressure.

If in doubt, anyone can add a filter over the rear 120mm, and reverse it to be 100% sure the case is achieving positive pressure. Personally, I have all my fans connected to a decent fan controller, and I just leave the rear exhaust fan turned down most of the time. There are a few ways to achieve positive pressure on the 600T. A simple pack of matches will confirm your result.
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Originally Posted by HighRollers View Post

Got it to open, thanks so much! And for my H100 config, I'm gonna use their stock fans pushing air out of the top. I'll also add 2 120mm fan on the top of the case, is that good?

Unless you're going to mod, you can't have push/pull. There are only a couple of way to do it (Offset the H100 and fans toward the left to avoid the memory and CPU power connectors but you will obstruct a portion of the rad, or use skinny 120mm fans inside the case that are basically useless due to low static pressure). If you want exhaust, just put two fans up top pulling air through the rad.

I'm sorry, but from all your questions it seems you haven't read any of this thread at all. Just a couple of weeks back we were discussing most of this, and it has been discussed over and over. In fact, within the last two months we have talking about everything you have asked about.

Why not spend an evening reading the last 6 months of the thread (research) instead of asking these questions? In fact, it would take less time to read about it than the week you have been asking questions. Personally I'm more than happy to help people out, but it's become apparent that you haven't read anything about this at all. Sorry to be blunt, but you really should read up on it a bit.
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"Those dominator platinum memory modules are sick! Love 'em...."

I know what you mean I what them so bad the look great in the new build I'm doing soon just t cost way to much for me
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post #6843 of 18196
My laughable rig. It pales in comparison to people's tri sli 670's or open loop water cooling systems, but hey, at least the case is awesome.

i5 - 2500k
P8P67 Pro
2 x Asus ENGTX560 DC
8 Gbs of Vengeance from Corsair @ 1600

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The middle one is mine, the two 500R's are rigs that I built for friends.
As you can see, I'm a Corsair nut.
Edited by Corsus - 7/8/12 at 3:31pm
post #6844 of 18196
Cheers mergatroid, I might drop the AX1200 and go for the AX850 and use the money saved and upgrade my memory to Corsair Dominator Platinum, I was going to get some 2133MHz but the 2400MHz will help my vm's. I have also decided to change the top back fan to a Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition High Airflow 120mm Fan and also change the h100 fans to 2x Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition High Static Pressure 120mm Fans in a pull setup pulling through the radiator.

Just playing hard ball trying to get the kit a bit cheaper, hopefully I will have a new rig by the weekend.

And I agree, people should read the thread... SO MUCH GOOD information up here, and I want to do it right the first time

Even, if I get another GTX 690 when they become cheaper, I would not need all the power of the AX1200.
Edited by Devious Dog - 7/9/12 at 3:08am
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post #6845 of 18196
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Originally Posted by Devious Dog View Post

Cheers mergatroid, I might drop the AX1200 and go for the AX850 and use the money saved and upgrade my memory to Corsair Dominator Platinum, I was going to get some 2133MHz but the 2400MHz will help my vm's. I have also decided to change the top back fan to a Air Series AF120 Quiet Edition High Airflow 120mm Fan and also change the h100 fans to 2x Air Series SP120 Quiet Edition High Static Pressure 120mm Fans in a pull setup pulling through the radiator.
Just playing hard ball trying to get the kit a bit cheaper, hopefully I will have a new rig by the weekend.
And I agree, people should read the thread... SO MUCH GOOD information up here, and I want to do it right the first time
Even, if I get another GTX 690 when they become cheaper, I would not need all the power of the AX1200.

The AX850 is a good choice. In fact, I think it would have been a better choice for me as well. I bet the AX750 I have now is running in the upper 1/3 of it's capability. I bought the 750 when I was running two HD4870 cards. If you were to want three cards you may want to consider a heavier psu, but I think what you've selected will be a good match for the rest of your system.

As for reading the thread, I understand that it's huge. It's a lot of time. That's why I would recommend people just starting out pick a section of the thread, say the last couple of months, and just read that. Most topics get retreaded so a lot of questions can be answered just reading some of the older posts. Or they could read 10 pages out of every 50, or skip through looking at pictures, or search the thread for keywords like "H100 Fans", or "intake exhaust", or "200mm rad". I hate lecturing or anything, but sometimes people seem like they didn't put any effort into it at all. It reminds me of some students when I was in college. Some of them would need the prof to basically inch them along because they didn't do much homework.

I suppose it would help is we could have something like a FAQ, or a table with links to most commonly asked and answered questions. That would make it easy for people to find what they need. There are some pretty good links on the op including two mode. Maybe we should come up with a list of links for things like case fans, radiator fans, intake vs exhaust, popular mods and any other topics we could think of?
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post #6846 of 18196
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Originally Posted by Mergatroid View Post

Stick with the 1200W if you really like it. I was just mentioning how it's overkill for your build and how large they are. They're sweet PSUs though, and as you said there's no harm in having an overabundance of power. The cards you have selected draw less power than what I'm running now though, so I see no need for such a large expensive psu. If money is no object, and you're not concerned about the space, then go for it.
Yes, you have to remove the stock 200mm fan. Note, exhaust isn't the "best" option, I just selected it because I don't like having to clean out the rad. If you don't mind cleaning the rad when you do your case cleaning, when by all means use intake. In either case, the system mounts the same. Rad inside the case up top where the old 200mm fan used to be, and the fans in the fan compartment under the top cover. Changing from intake or exhaust is as simple as flipping the fans over.
Yes, you can leave your rear fan as exhaust as well. I don't personally recommend making any unfiltered fan intake.
As for "hot air goes upward", please note for everyone, that the force behind making hot air go up is very weak and basically not a factor in case airflow design since it's very easy for fans to overcome that force. In fact, Corsair George has mentioned a basic airflow design for cases using video cards that exhaust hot air into the case. In this design, the H100 on top is used as intake and the front 200mm fan as exhaust to draw all the hot air out the front of the case.
http://www.overclock.net/t/831636/official-corsair-graphite-club/2010#post_13976813
As I have stated many times in this forum, I can control the pressure in my case, positive or negative, depending on how I set the RPM of the fans in my case. I have replaced my intake fan with a 166 CFM NZXT fan, but having a rad over the top exhaust should considerably reduce the airflow out the top. If the rear 120mm fan is controlled, it should be fairly easy to achieve positive pressure by increasing the RPM of the 200mm intake fan, and reducing the RPM of the rear exhaust fan. I have tested this using smoke and can easily tell when my adjustments cause a change from positive to negative pressure. As long as the air going in is more than the air exiting, you have positive pressure. Add 2 x 120mm fans partially blocked by a rad (H100) plus the one 120mm exhaust. If that's less than the 200mm intake fan, then you have positive pressure.
If in doubt, anyone can add a filter over the rear 120mm, and reverse it to be 100% sure the case is achieving positive pressure. Personally, I have all my fans connected to a decent fan controller, and I just leave the rear exhaust fan turned down most of the time. There are a few ways to achieve positive pressure on the 600T. A simple pack of matches will confirm your result.
Unless you're going to mod, you can't have push/pull. There are only a couple of way to do it (Offset the H100 and fans toward the left to avoid the memory and CPU power connectors but you will obstruct a portion of the rad, or use skinny 120mm fans inside the case that are basically useless due to low static pressure). If you want exhaust, just put two fans up top pulling air through the rad.
I'm sorry, but from all your questions it seems you haven't read any of this thread at all. Just a couple of weeks back we were discussing most of this, and it has been discussed over and over. In fact, within the last two months we have talking about everything you have asked about.
Why not spend an evening reading the last 6 months of the thread (research) instead of asking these questions? In fact, it would take less time to read about it than the week you have been asking questions. Personally I'm more than happy to help people out, but it's become apparent that you haven't read anything about this at all. Sorry to be blunt, but you really should read up on it a bit.

I did read like over 300 Pages on this thread. As time moves along, methods tend to change, that's why I asked. If it was a big deal for you don't answer my question next time then. But thanks for your input though.
Edited by HighRollers - 7/10/12 at 6:18am
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I'm Officially in the Corsair Club! I just finished my Rig last night. I will make a few changes in the future. Thanks for all your help!

PC5.jpg

PC4.jpg
Front of the Corsair 600T Graphite

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Top of the Corsair 600T Graphite

PC2.jpg
Inside the Corsair 600T (Sorry for the bad cable management, I did end up cleaning it up though)

PC1.jpg
Inside the Corsair 600T (Finished Product! I need to add some Red LEDS)

Since this was my first Build, it was kind of mind boggling at first, but I eventually got the groove on it. My temps looks solid at 37C while playing StarCraft or Diablo. And my CPU, GPU, and etc is under 30C while idle. Last question, does anybody have any good ideas I can do with Red LED Lighting inside the case? I'm thinking about getting the Acrylic Cover from mpntech soon.
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Originally Posted by HighRollers View Post

I'm Officially in the Corsair Club! I just finished my Rig last night. I will make a few changes in the future. Thanks for all your help! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
PC5.jpg
PC4.jpg
Front of the Corsair 600T Graphite
PC3.jpg
Top of the Corsair 600T Graphite
PC2.jpg
Inside the Corsair 600T (Sorry for the bad cable management, I did end up cleaning it up though)
PC1.jpg
Inside the Corsair 600T (Finished Product! I need to add some Red LEDS)
Since this was my first Build, it was kind of mind boggling at first, but I eventually got the groove on it. My temps looks solid at 37C while playing StarCraft or Diablo. And my CPU, GPU, and etc is under 30C while idle. Last question, does anybody have any good ideas I can do with Red LED Lighting inside the case? I'm thinking about getting the Acrylic Cover from mpntech soon.

Welcome
Welcome to the club!

I have a Suggestion. Do some cable Management and you case will look 10x better and will improve air flow in your case. Whats your air pattern? I would suggest intake in the front and rear Exhaust out the top.
Get led exhaust fan out the back, the CM r4 is not very bright. Bitfenix is a little brighter. I went with White led out the rear.
Edited by freitz - 7/10/12 at 11:22am
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Welcome[/SPOILER]
Welcome to the club!
I have a Suggestion. Do some cable Management and you case will look 10x better and will improve air flow in your case. Whats your air pattern? I would suggest intake in the front and rear Exhaust out the top.
Get led exhaust fan out the back, the CM r4 is not very bright. Bitfenix is a little brighter. I went with White led out the rear.

I did straighten out the cables last night, sorry the last picture was too dark. The only wires that were hard to manage were the ones that were reading the temperature for the CPU, GPU, and HD because the wire was leading into the 5.25 Bay which was attached to my Fan Controller/Temperature Reader (Scythe KM01-BK "KAZE MASTER" .) So I basically got black tubing and covered it that way so it looked neater.

Their is a Red LED 120mm Cooler Master Fan on the Rear b/c I didn't want it crazy bright. I will end up adding a lighting strip on the bottom of the case for more light exposure.

The Air pattern is that my front stock 200mm is my intake. My 120mm rear fan as an exhaust and my H100 is mounted on the top which 2 120mm Corsair SP Performance Fans are used as an exhaust too. So the only intake is the front 200mm.

Thanks, I will still do some work to it. I'm eventually going to add SLI, add more RAM, and purchase the Acrylic clear panel for the side of the 600T.
post #6850 of 18196
What are the average temperature for IDLE state and when I play a game like Starcraft or Diablo?

I been looking at a few temps people had on here and it varies by a lot.
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