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I'm not sure how to do it. I tried modding on my Scout and it didn't work out well. frown.gif

Use a ruler or measuring tape to measure the distance between the holes on the fan, then mark where you want the holes on the case. I think the picture @chrischoi put up is a great guide. Just remember, measure twice and cut once.
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Ok fair enough, i admit i havent read into it very much and just presumed everyone would want the fans as exhaust. Due to the heat rises statement and why would you want to stop it from escaping out of the top.
You say cooler cpu when set as intake, is that because your pushing cooler air into the case? Then i take it cools the rad down more hence the coolant to the cpu?
Thanks for helping me understand it better but personally i would still never have it as intake due to the dust, warming other components standoff.

I'm not saying that it shouldn't go out the top, I'm saying there is legitimate usage scenarios for both intake and exhaust. Some people consider CPU temp paramount, and some (chipset/GPU). Some are willing to sacrifice one for the other.

My own system is set up the way you guys were mentioning, as exhaust (in fact, my rad is up top and my fans inside so I can have push/exhaust). I'm just trying to say that for this topic, blanket statements such as those in the last few posts just don't apply. People should be aware that there are a few choices and those choices depend on a few factors.

The funny thing is, if anyone was to search for it, they could find a fellow from last year who used to post here. Any time anyone showed a new build, the guy would post a one sentence comment saying "Turn those fans around for intake", or "nice build, but the fans should be intake". He had exactly the opposite opinion as you guys do, that the ONLY way a rad should have its fans oriented is as intake. Eventually he got my goat (which I admit isn't all that hard to do) and I finally replied with a post very similar to the last one I left, only telling him that intake is not the only solution.

So, from my point of view I have seen people on the extreme opinion side of both solutions. I prefer to straddle the boarder myself. People can use a filter, make the fans intake and get a cooler CPU temp. Or they can forgo the filter, make the fans exhaust and have a slightly warmer CPU but cooler everything else. Some people are overclocking the heck out of their CPU, and may not even have a video card to worry about, so they want absolute best CPU temps which means using intake. All these things are legitimate cases, and so anyone asking advice should be given the standard, "intake for CPU temps, exhaust for GPU/chipset temps" answer so they know they have a choice.

You are correct, using intake pulls cooler air into the rad (cooler than the air inside the case), and that will cool your CPU better by a few degrees, but when that air exits the rad into the case, it is now warm air, and that causes your interior case temperature to go up a few degrees. When you're exhausting through the rad, the air going into the rad is warm case air, so the CPU temp will not be as low. However you are not pulling warm air into the case so the inside case temps will be a little lower.

I agree with you in that personally, I prefer using my rad as exhaust because then it doesn't get full of dust. Some people don't though. It's best to explain the choices and let the person asking decide which he wants to use. The best setup, in my opinion, would be to use a filter, set the fans as intake, and use some baffles or a shroud or something to rout the hot air coming in from the top directly out the back exhaust fan so it never enters the case (I haven't seen anyone do this yet).

One more little advantage of intake on your rad is it could cause positive pressure inside your case. With positive pressure, all the air is being forced out the little cracks and seams in the case so they don't get clogged up with dust.

If anyone was to look through they Hydro series thread, there are multiple examples there of people testing both intake and exhaust and documenting the results with actual screenshots of temperatures. I have yest to see a case myself when a person swapped from exhaust to intake and their CPU temp did not go down a few degrees. Again though, if a few degrees is not important to you, then it really doesn't matter which way you orient you fans. Generally speaking, most people will only see a difference of ~3c.

Please note, this also depends on your case. Some cases have better airflow than others, and some have a more direct path, with fewer obstacles, from intake to output.

I'd love to see someone try Corsair Georges idea of using the top H100 fans as intake and the front 200mm fan as exhaust.

A couple of links:

http://www.overclock.net/t/572373/official-corsair-obsidian-800d-700d-650d-550d-club/2510

George talking about using Intake on his system, and mentioning the "hot air rises" thing (last few posts).

http://www.overclock.net/t/831636/official-corsair-graphite-club/2010#post_13976813

George discussing radial and blower type video cards, and how the fans can be set up for both types.
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Anyone have the link of the person that cut the top grill to stack fans on top of a external H100 setup?
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Thats completely fair enough megatroid, agree with people should have a choice, i just didnt know there was more than one choice smile.gif thanks for your detailed reply though.
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I have my build here, which is almost finished, I still have to add coloured braided cables (white, red, black combination), acrylic front panel, a GPU back plate and some additional Bitfinix red led 120mm fans to the top, as the Corsair fans at the top make a ridiculous amount of noise.

Any suggestions are most welcome. I do have a question for the people on this thread, I hope you can help. I want to remove the top CD ROM drive cage and add another 120mm fan, I have seen a few people do it on the thread and it looks awesome. I have removed all the plastic covers to attempt to remove it, but found screws I was not familiar with are these known as torx screws? Do i need a T screwdriver? If so what size?

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I have my build here, which is almost finished, I still have to add coloured braided cables (white, red, black combination), acrylic front panel, a GPU back plate and some additional Bitfinix red led 120mm fans to the top, as the Corsair fans at the top make a ridiculous amount of noise.

Any suggestions are most welcome. I do have a question for the people on this thread, I hope you can help. I want to remove the top CD ROM drive cage and add another 120mm fan, I have seen a few people do it on the thread and it looks awesome. I have removed all the plastic covers to attempt to remove it, but found screws I was not familiar with are these known as torx screws? Do i need a T screwdriver? If so what size?

Thanks

1/8" drill bit. I was afraid at first and started smaller. That got stuck. So I broke a nice bit. Went up in size and it worked.

Youtube has videos.

https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube%2C+how+to+remove+rivets+computer&sugexp=chrome,mod=9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hope that helps.
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Thank you for your help I will try this and post the results.
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Hi guys i would like to ask if anyone has experienced problems with bitfenix 200mm pro led fans. I just got one today and it seems that it can't run above 500 rpm... it is connected to a molex (12v) and the monitoring wire is connected to the motherboard to see the rpm... when connected to the fan controller the difference between the minimum and maximum is almost nothing...

any advice or should i a for a replacement?
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Hi guys i would like to ask if anyone has experienced problems with bitfenix 200mm pro led fans. I just got one today and it seems that it can't run above 500 rpm... it is connected to a molex (12v) and the monitoring wire is connected to the motherboard to see the rpm... when connected to the fan controller the difference between the minimum and maximum is almost nothing...
any advice or should i a for a replacement?

I'm using a Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm LED fan right now. It's running off of a fan controller that only puts out 11V, and it's running at 800 RPM. Is that the same fan? If you have it direct to 12V and it's only running at 500 RPM, then I think there's something wrong with the fan. You may want to return it for a replacement. The fan controller built-in to the case isn't the best for range. That's why I use an after market fan controller.

Those fans are "OK". They are pretty good for noise. I'm not happy with the Spectre Pro fan myself, and next time I disassemble my system I will be reinstalling my 200mm 166CFM NZXT fan. It pushes quite a bit more air, although it's noisier (I don't mind, it's still not as loud as my video card fans). Watch out though, if you go NZXT, they are 30mm thick and require a mod to fit. (or require you to move your hard drive cage back).
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I'm using a Bitfenix Spectre Pro 200mm LED fan right now. It's running off of a fan controller that only puts out 11V, and it's running at 800 RPM. Is that the same fan? If you have it direct to 12V and it's only running at 500 RPM, then I think there's something wrong with the fan. You may want to return it for a replacement. The fan controller built-in to the case isn't the best for range. That's why I use an after market fan controller.
Those fans are "OK". They are pretty good for noise. I'm not happy with the Spectre Pro fan myself, and next time I disassemble my system I will be reinstalling my 200mm 166CFM NZXT fan. It pushes quite a bit more air, although it's noisier (I don't mind, it's still not as loud as my video card fans). Watch out though, if you go NZXT, they are 30mm thick and require a mod to fit. (or require you to move your hard drive cage back).

Thanks for the reply Megatroid thumb.gif, my fan was connected first at fan control fom the 600T, but i realized that no matter i put the control to 100% the fan didn't run faster. Then i connected to a 12v and monitoring through motherboard pin and i got ~500 rpm, tried hook up to another pc and got the same results... I realized that the fan i hard to spin manually like there is something holding the fan and las less then a second spinning, other fans are very easy to spin manually and last few seconds spinning...

so i think i have to ask for a replacement...

just for curiosity comparing your nzxt and the bitfenix 200mm which do you think is more quieter at same range of airflow?
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