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Well I got my parts in...it's been 9 months since I've fully disassembled my system and I find this. Going to Walmart to buy some ridiculous expensive can air so I can get my new stuff in tonight.

Since you have taken it out, just pour some water through it from the other side, this will clean off all the dust.

Dust filters with positive air pressure also helps smile.gif
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Well I got my parts in...it's been 9 months since I've fully disassembled my system and I find this. Going to Walmart to buy some ridiculous expensive can air so I can get my new stuff in tonight.

That's why I don't use my rad as an intake, and the intakes I have use dust filters.
You can purchase a nice little compressor for about $50 if you dislike the price of canned air. Canned is great if I need it on the go or for some quick cleaning if I don't want to pull out a compressor, but at work and home I mostly use a compressor for anything but the fastest cleaning jobs.
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Huh? How come two 200mm fans have different sizes? One is 140x25 and the other 200x24. How is it possible? Does the 140 still fit or not?

140 x 25 is not a 200mm fan. If it was, it would be 200 x 25 or similar. All those fans you linked to are the same fan, just different colours. Look at their specs. Same RPM, same dimensions, same airflow.
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question...how would I get a positive air pressure with this set up? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

top fans are gentle typhoons ap-15's, and front is 2x200mm fans as intake. will turning them to exhaust hurt my temps really bad?

currently my cpu is getting avg 28* and gpu's are at 23*
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Hi folks...


I have other questions about my cooling...

- What is better for replacing at the top? Another 200mm like a Bifenix Spectre Pro or two good 120 / 140mm? In terms of Airflow / better temps, I mean.

- What would be the best reference for case panels? I'm tempted by Scythe Gente Typhoons but boy are they expensive.. Also I've read in several threads that these are good radiator fans, but I need good case fans, if there is any difference?
I've read the new Corsair ones are good ,(AF = quiet / SP = more static pressure), and that the SP's were good for radiators... Is there any real difference between fans designed for radiators and fans designed for cases?

Here is a selection, what would be a good choice?


BITFENIX Spectre Pro
NZXT FZ-120 Airflow Fan Series - 120mm
CORSAIR AF120 Performance Edition - High Airflow - 120 mm
CORSAIR SP120 High Performance - High Static Pressure - 120 mm
Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP15


- Finally... Should the fans on the mesh panel be intake or exhaust?


Thanks in advance.. That's a lot of qestions lol sorry.
Edited by DaGoat - 1/6/13 at 1:52am
post #7985 of 18196
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Hi folks...
I have other questions about my cooling...
- What is better for replacing at the top? Another 200mm like a Bifenix Spectre Pro or two good 120 / 140mm? In terms of Airflow / better temps, I mean.
- What would be the best reference for case panels? I'm tempted by Scythe Gente Typhoons but boy are they expensive.. Also I've read in several threads that these are good radiator fans, but I need good case fans, if there is any difference?
I've read the new Corsair ones are good ,(AF = quiet / SP = more static pressure), and that the SP's were good for radiators... Is there any real difference between fans designed for radiators and fans designed for cases?
Here is a selection, what would be a good choice?
BITFENIX Spectre Pro
NZXT FZ-120 Airflow Fan Series - 120mm
CORSAIR AF120 Performance Edition - High Airflow - 120 mm
CORSAIR SP120 High Performance - High Static Pressure - 120 mm
Scythe Gentle Typhoon AP15
- Finally... Should the fans on the mesh panel be intake or exhaust?
Thanks in advance.. That's a lot of qestions lol sorry.



the high static pressure fans are to be used in a "tight space" situation like a radiator to help push the air thru those spaces, while regular "high flow" fans are designed to move air into/outside the case. Either fans will work IMO if you're air cooling. if you're using the mesh panel on the side, I would prolly configure it as intake fans to push air onto the gpu, and then have some high flow fans as exhaust. I would replace the top 200mm fan with 2x120mm fans as either intake or exhaust. Hope that helps and again this is only my 2cents.gif

direct from Corsair

Air Series AF fan models perform best in unrestricted spaces with at least 3cm of clearance, and they’re ideal for mounting at the rear or top of your PC case as exhaust fans for your PC’s motherboard and CPU, graphics accelerators, and other components that fill the case with heat. They work equally well as unrestricted intake fans for areas like side panels or bottom intakes.
For high restriction areas like hard drive cages or in other tight spaces where there’s less air volume, check out our Air Series SP models of high static pressure fans.
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the high static pressure fans are to be used in a "tight space" situation like a radiator to help push the air thru those spaces, while regular "high flow" fans are designed to move air into/outside the case. Either fans will work IMO if you're air cooling. if you're using the mesh panel on the side, I would prolly configure it as intake fans to push air onto the gpu, and then have some high flow fans as exhaust. I would replace the top 200mm fan with 2x120mm fans as either intake or exhaust. Hope that helps and again this is only my 2cents.gif

As I checked, my bottom 200mm is intake, the top 200mm is exhaust and the 120mm ones on my H80 are exhaust. OK so I would go with 4x120 as intake on the mesh panel and exhaust though the top with two powerful 120mm High Static Pressure fans instead of 1x200, you said 2x120 is better if I understood you correctly?


So my idea would be

1 x BITFENIX Spectre Pro 200 mm Intake at the bottom to replace the Orignal Corsair 200mm one
2x x CORSAIR SP120 High Performance - High Static Pressure Exhaust to replace the ones on my H80
Another 2 x CORSAIR SP120 High Performance - High Static Pressure Exhaust at the top to replace the original 200mm Corsair
4 x YATE LOON Intake on the Mesh panel
NZXT Sentry Mesh fan controller

But since the mesh panel fans are used intake, I guess I'd have to use some sort of dust filter no?


Thanks a lot for your ansswers, rep + thumb.gif
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As I checked, my bottom 200mm is intake, the top 200mm is exhaust and the 120mm ones on my H80 are exhaust. OK so I would go with 4x120 as intake on the mesh panel and exhaust though the top with two powerful 120mm High Static Pressure fans instead of 1x200, you said 2x120 is better if I understood you correctly?
So my idea would be
1 x BITFENIX Spectre Pro 200 mm Intake at the bottom to replace the Orignal Corsair 200mm one
2x x CORSAIR SP120 High Performance - High Static Pressure Exhaust to replace the ones on my H80
Another 2 x CORSAIR SP120 High Performance - High Static Pressure Exhaust at the top to replace the original 200mm Corsair
4 x YATE LOON Intake on the Mesh panel
NZXT Sentry Mesh fan controller
But since the mesh panel fans are used intake, I guess I'd have to use some sort of dust filter no?
Thanks a lot for your ansswers, rep + thumb.gif

what kind of video card do you have? reason why i ask is if the card exhausts the air within the case or out the back. if they're going out the back. you could leave the set up how it is on the H80, but if the video card exhausts it within the case, i'd make that H80 as intake so it takes cool air in, instead of the hot air in the case. so in theory of hot air being blown in the case.
2x120mm top as exhaust, H80 as intake, 200m as intake/exhaust (you'll have to play around with that) and the mesh intake (maybe bottom 2 intake, top 2 exhaust or top and bottom left side intake, top and bottom right side as exhaust...again you'll have to play around with that.

if the card is exhausting out the back, you should be good with your set up...air cooling is an art I swear...

you can get a fan filter...i'd recommend one now after seeing what i saw last night on my rad
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what kind of video card do you have? reason why i ask is if the card exhausts the air within the case or out the back. if they're going out the back. you could leave the set up how it is on the H80, but if the video card exhausts it within the case, i'd make that H80 as intake so it takes cool air in, instead of the hot air in the case. so in theory of hot air being blown in the case.
2x120mm top as exhaust, H80 as intake, 200m as intake/exhaust (you'll have to play around with that) and the mesh intake (maybe bottom 2 intake, top 2 exhaust or top and bottom left side intake, top and bottom right side as exhaust...again you'll have to play around with that.
if the card is exhausting out the back, you should be good with your set up...air cooling is an art I swear...
you can get a fan filter...i'd recommend one now after seeing what i saw last night on my rad

Thanks man. My Graphic cards are on my sig rig. They're the main reason why I need a better cooling.. They're two 3-Slot Asus Matrix in sandwich so there's a lot of heat into the case.

Dude, I don't think that's a good idea at all to put the H80 fans as intake. Heat rises. So fans at the bottom should be intake and fans on the top should definitely be exhaust.
My main concern is with the mesh panel since it's in the "middle". I finally think intake is a much better option, to let cool airenter at the GPU level which is then exhausted at the top. But I think I'll go with 1 x 200 Bitfenix Pro at the top instead of 2 x 120, Definitely more airflow and less noise.

My main concern now are the dust filters on the mesh panels. I really don't know how to choose it and if they would fit. The only one I found is this one, I wonder if I can put 4 of those on the mesh panel for the 4 x 120 mm fans?

And overall, my main question now is: since the panel fans operate as intake, and they have to take air throught the panel + a dust filter, I wonder if I shouldn't choose more powerful fans with more static pressure? headscratch.gif

On this particular detail, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Edited by DaGoat - 1/6/13 at 4:45am
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^^ I know somewhere on this thread, someone did testing with fan filters and if I remember correctly they didn't hurt the flow too much, you just had to clean them regularly because of the build up.

I believe mergatoid has some info for the filters as well.
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Just wanted to give a few images while I had a moment. Pretty standard 600T. Modded to top to take a 360mm rad, and keep the top cover on. I also put the 200mm bitfenix in the front, as well as on the side panel.

The rad is an RS360, with high speed yate loons.

Really loving this case however, great quality, and really is easy to work with.



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