I currently have the next phantom and would love to water cool this beast but being the complete noob in the matter i turn to you my friends to assist me in figuring out what is the best solution. My case has 2x200mm fans at the top with brackets to attach a dual radiator underneath them and i do know that I would like to take advantage of this feature. I am very concerned about looks and performance so im guessing custom building my own system would probably be best. Any input on RAds, Blocks, pumps and accesories would be greatly appreciated. What type of temp differences can i expect?
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Water cooling Nzxt Phantom
After checking out the sticky I have come up with this setup so far. I will still need help making sure I get the proper fittings and tube sizes.
Swiftech Apogee XT waterblock for my 955 BE
XSPC rx240 dual 120 rad or the Black Ice GTX 240
XSPC acrylic dual 5.25 reservoir
Swiftech MCP350 Pump.
Any input?
Swiftech Apogee XT waterblock for my 955 BE
XSPC rx240 dual 120 rad or the Black Ice GTX 240
XSPC acrylic dual 5.25 reservoir
Swiftech MCP350 Pump.
Any input?
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9/25/10 at 9:08am
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I'd avoid that block, if you're going to spend that kind of money get the EK supreme HF or save money and get the XSPC rasa, both of which out perform the apogee. When it comes to rads it depends on how loud or quite you want your computer. That pump is iffy, you'd be better off getting the mcp355 with an xspc top / res.
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9/25/10 at 9:12am
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Go with the RX240 and lower speed fans and what JE said I agree with.
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9/25/10 at 9:18am
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Good work on reading the stickies. There is some great info there.
That will be a nice loop. For the rads, go for the RX240 if you are running slow speed fans, or the GTX240 if you are running high speed fans. Comparison here.
The Apogee, EK full nickel and Rasa all perform similarly according to this review. The Apogee does have a lot of restriction (resistance to flow) but it will not be a problem in your loop. If you go for the Apogee or the Rasa, you will need the mounting kit for the AMD boards.
The pump is fine for your loop, the 355 is just a bit more powerful but you won't need it for a CPU only loop. If you are getting the dual bay res it has a built in pump top, no need for a separate one.
As for tube sizes, there is very little performance difference between 3/8" and 1/2". Personally I would go for 3/8" ID (internal diameter) by 5/8" OD (outer diameter) tubing. This will allow you to turn tighter corners than the 1/2" tube and be more resistant to kinking.
Once you pick a tube size you need to pick fittings that match it. For barbs you need to ensure that the ID matches, for compression fittings you need to make sure that the ID and OD match.
Barbs need clamps for extra security. There is no real difference in performance or safety between barbs and compression fittings, if they are installed correctly. The only difference is looks and price (compression fittings look better and cost more).
Edited by GingerJohn - 9/25/10 at 11:16am
That will be a nice loop. For the rads, go for the RX240 if you are running slow speed fans, or the GTX240 if you are running high speed fans. Comparison here.
The Apogee, EK full nickel and Rasa all perform similarly according to this review. The Apogee does have a lot of restriction (resistance to flow) but it will not be a problem in your loop. If you go for the Apogee or the Rasa, you will need the mounting kit for the AMD boards.
The pump is fine for your loop, the 355 is just a bit more powerful but you won't need it for a CPU only loop. If you are getting the dual bay res it has a built in pump top, no need for a separate one.
As for tube sizes, there is very little performance difference between 3/8" and 1/2". Personally I would go for 3/8" ID (internal diameter) by 5/8" OD (outer diameter) tubing. This will allow you to turn tighter corners than the 1/2" tube and be more resistant to kinking.
Once you pick a tube size you need to pick fittings that match it. For barbs you need to ensure that the ID matches, for compression fittings you need to make sure that the ID and OD match.
Barbs need clamps for extra security. There is no real difference in performance or safety between barbs and compression fittings, if they are installed correctly. The only difference is looks and price (compression fittings look better and cost more).
Edited by GingerJohn - 9/25/10 at 11:16am
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Quote:
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I'd avoid that block, if you're going to spend that kind of money get the EK supreme HF or save money and get the XSPC rasa, both of which out perform the apogee. When it comes to rads it depends on how loud or quite you want your computer. That pump is iffy, you'd be better off getting the mcp355 with an xspc top / res.
|
EK Supreme HF for my 955 BE
XSPC rx240 dual 120 rad or the Black Ice GTX 240
XSPC acrylic dual 5.25 reservoir
Swiftech MCP355 Pump.
Storm Troopa
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| CPU | Motherboard | Graphics | RAM |
|---|---|---|---|
| Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition @ 3.9 1.57v | Asus M4N82 Deluxe 3-Way SLI | Evga 260 FTW @ 690-1454-1250 | 4GB Muskin Blackline |
| Hard Drive | OS | Monitor | Power |
| 500GB Western Digital | Windows 7 32-Bit | Proview 19in | Hiper 580W Modular |
| Case | |||
| Nzxt Phantom (White) | |||
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| Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition @ 3.9 1.57v | Asus M4N82 Deluxe 3-Way SLI | Evga 260 FTW @ 690-1454-1250 | 4GB Muskin Blackline |
| Hard Drive | OS | Monitor | Power |
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| Nzxt Phantom (White) | |||
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Quote:
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Good work on reading the stickies. There is some great info there.
That will be a nice loop. For the rads, go for the RX240 if you are running slow speed fans, or the GTX240 if you are running high speed fans. Comparison here. The Apogee, EK full nickel and Rasa all perform similarly according to this review. The Apogee does have a lot of restriction (resistance to flow) but it will not be a problem in your loop. If you go for the Apogee or the Rasa, you will need the mounting kit for the AMD boards. The pump is fine for your loop, the 355 is just a bit more powerful but you won't need it for a CPU only loop. If you are getting the dual bay res it has a built in pump top, no need for a separate one. As for tube sizes, there is very little performance difference between 3/8" and 1/2". Personllay I would go for 3/8" ID (internal diameter) by 5/8" OD (outer diameter) tubing. This will allow you to turn tighter corners than the 1/2" tube and be more resistant to kinking. Once you pick a tube size you need to pick fittings that match it. For barbs you need to ensure that the ID matches, for compression fittings you need to make sure that the ID and OD match. Barbs need clamps for extra security. There is no real difference in performance or safety between barbs and compression fittings, if they are installed correctly. The only difference is looks and price (compression fittings look better and cost more). |
Modified TY!!!!!!
EK Supreme HF for my 955 BE
XSPC rx240 Rad
XSPC acrylic dual 5.25 reservoir/top
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9/25/10 at 9:23am
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if you don't want the top / res for the pump, invest in a top for it. it will increase performance aswell as give you the ability to run different sized fittings.
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What exactly is a TOP?
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9/25/10 at 9:26am
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xazraelx1981, I heard Swiftech's pretty damn good... Make sure you post some pics here once you install the water cooling. 

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