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I will if I have any stability issues in SC2 at Ultra settings. I'm happy with my system how it is right now. I'll run the real temps over night with FFT and post my results. I might not be sleeping tonight, so don't wait up. ;P

My idle temps were like 35-40C before OC IIRC
If that's what they were, then that's normal. And if so, then this definitely means you have to get decent aftermarket air cooling! These temps might result in instability here and there even if the overclock itself is stable.
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don't worry I'll let you know if I have any problems. I'm fairly certain SC2 is not going to stress my CPU as much as prime 95 did so you may not hear from me again. either way you did an outstanding job helping me.
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But it's overclocked. So, even if it's stable for hours upon hours of S2C, it still doesn't guarantee that the system is truly stable.

Plus, based on every single post I've ever seen on this message board regarding overclocking, I most certainly wouldn't run my system like this until I got better air cooling.
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hours up hours of sc2 is what i built this system for.

which SSD drive would you recommend for less than $150-200? I want 64 GB+ I could get a 40GB for about $100 but space would be too tight for SC2 W7 and another game or 2.

I'm considering a Kingston 64GB which is $110 after $30 rebate and they only have 1 left so i gotta decide by 10am central. http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0328205

Another decent one is a Micro Center SSD for $129 also 64GB. http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0331848


Should I use I/O Random Reads to compare benchmarks? I don't think sequential Max is too important because its the small access to frequently used files in different locations that speeds up the 'snapiness' of the PC overall right?

These 2 have the best I/O Random Reads in my budget according to Tomshardware's SSD charts 2010: http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts...AG-1G&REFID=PG
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...de=00-491993-2

This ones nice too, has about same reads as the others, but much faster writes http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0344221
Cheapest by far but low read/write speeds on specs http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0340924
Edited by joe7dust - 9/29/10 at 5:47am
post #55 of 62
But it's overclocked. When a system is overclocked, it becomes unstable by nature. Therefore, it is imperative to test for stability using the standard stress testing procedures.

Even though an overclocked system may be problem-free for a week straight, it does not mean that it's stable.

If you don't believe me, then that's ok. But if not, then ask in the Intel - General forum on here. Your system is overclocked, and the temperatures are really high. Overclocking without testing for stability can result in data corruption either very quickly, or just over the course of time. It could take seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks, or even months. But it can happen.

Other problems include BSODs, system lock-ups, unexpected reboots or shut-downs, and various other annoying and otherwise-unexplained problems.
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post #56 of 62
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Looks like the Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC064MAG-1G1, 64GB, SATA/600 is a great choice. It is the only one from my previous post that is also in the top10 of I/O Random Writes.

It's also the most expensive and not in stock locally so I'll have to wait...

Another option I guess is the Intel X25 V, but its only 40GB. This is good and bad. good because I could just buy 1 for now and get another ($200 for 80GB) if I need to later. Good because its also high on the random read/write charts like the Crucial. good because its seek time is 0.065ms instead of 0.1 like every single other drive i've looked at.

Bad because the sequential read/writes are Terrible! For copy large data my SATA would actually do better than it. XD

But.. its the best for random read/write that I could go and buy at Micro Center today, and the starter cost would be the least of all choices too cause I'd get it as 40GB only for now.

Do you know the diff between used/fresh state? I'm assuming used means blank drive performance and used is when its nearly full? http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/s...marks,110.html

I'm really leaning towards the Intel X25 V now, but it has one huuuge weakness -- write speed. I'm thinking this will only be noticeable during file copy for my needs, but you gotta see this chart to understand my reluctance to pick it without some advice. It's at the bottom! by a mile!
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/s...rage,2314.html Write speed shouldn't matter much for gaming and snappiness of loading apps and reading files correct?

TL;DR
Intel X25 V beats the Crucial SSD in just about everything except Write Throughput
This shouldn't have a significant affect on gaming & web/file browsing, correct?

Edited by joe7dust - 9/29/10 at 6:14am
post #57 of 62
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I've narrowed it down to 2 final choices. This post has the key question that will determine my choice of Crucial or Kingston. (just found out Kingston is a re-branded Intel at a much better GB/$ ratio hence the dropping of Intel as a choice)

http://www.overclock.net/ssd/802226-...l#post10851438
post #58 of 62
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Nevermind I'm getting the Intel, beats the Kingston for gaming according to this direct comparison review:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2968/i...the-125-ssds/9
post #59 of 62
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Changed my mind again. (lol!)

The Kingston snv425 is selling at fry's locally for $99 @ 64GB
Intel is same price but only 40GB

A no brainer... slight loss in performance but those 24 extra GB are going to be crucial when trying to cram my 2nd or 3rd games on there.
post #60 of 62
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So good so far. Windows 7 ultimate 64-bit installed in record time. Not extremely fast but this may be due to a DVD-ROM bottleneck and less than perfect DVD condition.

Installed 46 Windows updates in 5 minutes instead of 20-30.
Edited by joe7dust - 9/30/10 at 7:49am
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