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thanks again, for the review, Yoshi.

color me unimpressed with this thing, though. i just find it ridiculous, as it's basically a slower 5770, and competes with it most of the time, without really bringing much else that's compelling o the table.

i don't know - try as i might, i can't help but think of this card as a waste, after so long... well, maybe not waste, but it has "been there, done that" syndrome all over it. and now that the GTX 460 768's are so cheap, and the 1GB's can be easily had for ~$200AR, it just seems smarter to go that way.

but maybe that's just me being pedantic. thanks for the review
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mins running like a champ at 925 core (evga gts 450)
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thanks again, for the review, Yoshi.

color me unimpressed with this thing, though. i just find it ridiculous, as it's basically a slower 5770, and competes with it most of the time, without really bringing much else that's compelling o the table.

i don't know - try as i might, i can't help but think of this card as a waste, after so long... well, maybe not waste, but it has "been there, done that" syndrome all over it. and now that the GTX 460 768's are so cheap, and the 1GB's can be easily had for ~$200AR, it just seems smarter to go that way.

but maybe that's just me being pedantic. thanks for the review
The main purpose of the card isn't to astound with revolutionary features, but rather to fill a gaping hole in their DX11 lineup. ATI has had the HD5750/HD5770 for some time now, and the GTX460 is a few steps above them. NVIDIA needed a budget performance card to occupy the $120-140 range Expect to see them fill out the lower-end DX11 lineup next with GF108.

As with the GF100 and GF104, GF106 was long overdue, but its arrival is still a positive
    
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Relevant news on the GF106 front: They basically cut it in half (and then some) and have released the GT430.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3973/n...geforce-gt-430

I figure that there will also be an iteration between 96 and 192 SPs as well. Perhaps a 144SP GT440. The budget segment gets more and more interesting.

If you're looking for a HTPC card with very mild gaming capabilities, you may want to give the GT430 a look
    
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Relevant news on the GF106 front: They basically cut it in half (and then some) and have released the GT430.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3973/n...geforce-gt-430

I figure that there will also be an iteration between 96 and 192 SPs as well. Perhaps a 144SP GT440. The budget segment gets more and more interesting.

If you're looking for a HTPC card with very mild gaming capabilities, you may want to give the GT430 a look

It is actually more than just cut in half. GT430 consists of 4 ROPs as opposed to 16 on GTS450. Everything else seems as half of GTS450.

Anyway, I found this and thought it might interesting...



It seems Fermi CUDA cores are NOT efficient as people have thought.
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Once more we see the GT 430 come in behind the GT 240, even though the GT 430 has the theoretical advantage due to clockspeed. The loss isn’t nearly as great as it was under Folding @ Home, but this lends more credit to the theory that Fermi shaders are less efficient than GT21x CUDA cores.

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It is actually more than just cut in half. GT430 consists of 4 ROPs as opposed to 16 on GTS450. Everything else seems as half of GTS450.

Anyway, I found this and thought it might interesting...

It seems Fermi CUDA cores are NOT efficient as people have thought.
Anandtech.com

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That's why I said and then some, silly!

As for F@H, it really depends which kind of work units they are running. The new 900 point units LOVE the GTS450 and I assume would like the GT430 much more than any other GPU3 or GPU2 units. My GTS450 equals my GTX470 at stock settings with the new WUs.

Not knowing which units they are working on or being a F@H pro myself yet makes those figures unusable to me
    
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That's why I said and then some, silly!

As for F@H, it really depends which kind of work units they are running. The new 900 point units LOVE the GTS450 and I assume would like the GT430 much more than any other GPU3 or GPU2 units. My GTS450 equals my GTX470 at stock settings with the new WUs.

Not knowing which units they are working on or being a F@H pro myself yet makes those figures unusable to me

I see your point, but it contradicts the entire meaning of Fermi architecture. Isn't GTS450 a derivative of the original Fermi architecture? Then, GTS450 has to have the same efficiency as the GF100. Do you think GT21X CUDA cores will not improve on the new 900 point units?

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Even though the rendering horsepower of the GT 430 is light years ahead of the GT 220, the amount of additional performance you get from using it as a dedicated PhysX card is negligible at best. There is a slight improvement but if you are already using a lower-end card for PhysX processing, you won’t see a noticeable benefit from “moving up†to a GT 430.
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I see your point, but it contradicts the entire meaning of Fermi architecture. Isn't GTS450 a derivative of the original Fermi architecture? Then, GTS450 has to have the same efficiency as the GF100. Do you think GT21X CUDA cores will not improve on the new 900 point units?

Also found this:

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GTS450 is a GF106 variant which is for the purpose of this discussion a cut-down GF104. While derived from the original GF100 architecture, they did make changes to GF104, most notably the grouping of CUDA cores within simultaneous multiprocessors. They went from 32 to 48 CUDA cores per SM. I believe that this has produced a more efficient model than that presented in GF100, despite the decrease in raw processing power. (Part of the reason why the GTX460 is a strong performer IMO - in addition to its other attributes of course) I believe that these folding work units must prefer the changes made in GF104/106(and most likely 108) to that of the original GF100.

In regard to the physX performance cited, it looks accurate. When you think about it, how much horsepower are you really adding to the GTX460 with either a GT220 or GT430? Not that much, so the difference between the two will be minimal. I noted a difference in Mafia II/Batman between a few models of graphics cards, but the targeted performance gap between them was greater. I'm not really a supporter of the GT430 at its current price point, but GF108 has some potential if it's priced more competitively. I'm still waiting for a 144SP GF106 variant to see how it performs Yields may be too good on GTS450 GPU to justify it (possible GT440) from a cost perspective though, who knows...
    
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Good review.
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wow, that was an extremely in-depth/thorough review. you can tell it took you a lot of time to do
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