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i could only imagine how heavy the 10-500/2.8 would be.....
It would be even worse than the RPG...

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i want the nikon version haha
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are people really stupid enough to think that any random guy with a ****ty point and shoot can take photos like a professional?
No, but people are stupid enough to think that an expensive camera can make automatically take amazing pictures and make up for lack of skill.


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It would be even worse than the RPG...


I keep expecting a laser to fire out of the front element.
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No, but people are stupid enough to think that an expensive camera can make automatically take amazing pictures and make up for lack of skill.
The way I see it is that they don't know the difference between a snapshot and a photograph.

An expensive camera will give them better snapshots on it's own, but it's still up to the person behind it to take the photographs.
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The way I see it is that they don't know the difference between a snapshot and a photograph.

An expensive camera will give them better snapshots on it's own, but it's still up to the person behind it to take the photographs.
Definitely true.

I see a lot of people buy t2is and D90s to replace their point and shoot. It bugs me, but in all honesty they've a right to, and they're happy with their cameras because the quality beats that of what a P&S can deliver.

What really irks me though is when people think that since they've an expensive camera and can press the shutter release, they're photographers. There's a bit of a fad right now among people my age (college-aged) for studio portraits. It seems a lot of these "portrait photographers" follow this mindset. The pictures are horribly composed, exposed, and cropped, and have tons of post-processing to make up for bad shots. This isn't just a friend with a camera doing it for fun either, but "professionals" who get paid to do this for a living. It bugs me to no end.
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Definitely true.

I see a lot of people buy t2is and D90s to replace their point and shoot. It bugs me, but in all honesty they've a right to, and they're happy with their cameras because the quality beats that of what a P&S can deliver.

What really irks me though is when people think that since they've an expensive camera and can press the shutter release, they're photographers. There's a bit of a fad right now among people my age (college-aged) for studio portraits. It seems a lot of these "portrait photographers" follow this mindset. The pictures are horribly composed, exposed, and cropped, and have tons of post-processing to make up for bad shots. This isn't just a friend with a camera doing it for fun either, but "professionals" who get paid to do this for a living. It bugs me to no end.
Well no I don't think it's wrong that they buy these cameras, not by any means. Some people just really care about the quality. And since cheap PHD cameras take really bad pictures, and the better ones cost about the same as a low end DSLR+kit lens anyway, I'd have to side with them.

But yeah, I know all too well exactly what you're saying. And what makes it even worse is that if you walk around with your camera around your neck, everyone seems to hand you their $50 PHD and ask you to take their picture? As if you've got magic fingers or something.
Edited by Manyak - 10/2/10 at 10:44am
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It would be even worse than the RPG...

oooo definitely be way bigger then the super bigma.....thats only 200-500/2.8.

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Definitely true.

I see a lot of people buy t2is and D90s to replace their point and shoot. It bugs me, but in all honesty they've a right to, and they're happy with their cameras because the quality beats that of what a P&S can deliver.

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theres nothing wrong with buying a DSLR to replace P&S. problem is people think that by buying a DSLR it will automatically turn their bad shots into good ones....hell my friends dad bought a canon 5d with the 24-105L and kept it in the green box when he shoots.....

and i dont think there is anything wrong with post process for bad pictures. for example sometimes the lighting doesnt allow for the perfect shot, theres nothing wrong with pulling/pushing in post to get the correct exposure. if they can make a bad shot look good in post then more power to them.....but i will continue to try to get good shots cause i suck in post lol.
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theres nothing wrong with buying a DSLR to replace P&S. problem is people think that by buying a DSLR it will automatically turn their bad shots into good ones....hell my friends dad bought a canon 5d with the 24-105L and kept it in the green box when he shoots.....

and i dont think there is anything wrong with post process for bad pictures. for example sometimes the lighting doesnt allow for the perfect shot, theres nothing wrong with pulling/pushing in post to get the correct exposure. if they can make a bad shot look good in post then more power to them.....but i will continue to try to get good shots cause i suck in post lol.
I should have been more clear with my statement. It bugs me when people buy expensive (and I mean D300S/7D level) DSLRs and use them as point and shoots, purely on automatic settings. I understand if people were to buy Rebels/D5ks if they want better quality pictures compared to point and shoots, but when people start using professional grade DSLRs as P&S replacements, it makes me feel as if they think that the most expensive cameras are a substitute for photographic know-how.

And my issue with the post-processing is when "professionals" rely on them too heavily. Obviously, I can't link to these pics since they're peoples' personal FB pictures, but a lot of them look like the photographer can't properly take a picture and is PPing to make up for it. The way I see, PP should enhance your pictures, not save them. A lot of these pics are horribly exposed and it's obvious the person tried to save them in Lightroom. It's not an issue of one or two stops from perfect exposure, but an issue of the picture just being much too dark or bright, and the image ends up being immensely washed out when the photographer fixes it in Lightroom. Looking at EXIF data, I've seen 1600 ISO in daylight and I've seen f/5.6 and 1/10 @ 200 ISO in dark rooms. Additionally, a lot of these pics look like the photographer doesn't know how to properly frame a shot (landscape when he should have done portrait, distracting scenery, bad framing of subject, etc) and crops out a very large chunk of the picture to make it up for it.

Again, I've no issues with hobbyists doing this, but it really irks me to see "professionals" who charge a fee practicing this whole culture of PP as a substitute for good photography.


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It would be even worse than the RPG...

I just noticed those biceps
Edited by r31ncarnat3d - 10/2/10 at 8:12pm
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I should have been more clear with my statement. It bugs me when people buy expensive (and I mean D300S/7D level) DSLRs and use them as point and shoots, purely on automatic settings. I understand if people were to buy Rebels/D5ks if they want better quality pictures compared to point and shoots, but when people start using professional grade DSLRs as P&S replacements, it makes me feel as if they think that the most expensive cameras are a substitute for photographic know-how.

And my issue with the post-processing is when "professionals" rely on them too heavily. Obviously, I can't link to these pics since they're peoples' personal FB pictures, but a lot of them look like the photographer can't properly take a picture and is PPing to make up for it. The way I see, PP should enhance your pictures, not save them. A lot of these pics are horribly exposed and it's obvious the person tried to save them in Lightroom. It's not an issue of one or two stops from perfect exposure, but an issue of the picture just being much too dark or bright, and the image ends up being immensely washed out when the photographer fixes it in Lightroom. Looking at EXIF data, I've seen 1600 ISO in daylight and I've seen f/5.6 and 1/10 @ 200 ISO in dark rooms. Additionally, a lot of these pics look like the photographer doesn't know how to properly frame a shot (landscape when he should have done portrait, distracting scenery, bad framing of subject, etc) and crops out a very large chunk of the picture to make it up for it.

Again, I've no issues with hobbyists doing this, but it really irks me to see "professionals" who charge a fee practicing this whole culture of PP as a substitute for good photography.

I just noticed those biceps
Lol yeah, I imagine it's quite a workout to just carry that thing around, let alone try and handhold a shot with it


But I agree. I'm usually of the mindset that "less is more", but there are still times when heavy PP looks really good and makes a photo that much better. But here I'm talking about the difference between using it for artistic purposes, as opposed to "I don't want anyone to see how bad my shots are".

From here:


And here:


And here:
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Since when did people start using BFG's as cameras?
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