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Troubles unlocking 555

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#1 ·
Alright, so, I think my chip in unlockable but my bios is stopping me from doing it.

Reason is, I hit the switch, it says 4 cores enabled. Get to the windows loading screen (just before the other loading screen to get into the desktop) and it either freezes or crashes.

So, at first I thought, well maybe I don't actually have a stable quad core. But then I tried disabling 2 cores while the unlock was enabled and it still does the same thing. I think it is just the ACC on this mobo and wondering how I can unlock this puppy.

Thanks for any help. I have the latest .ROM for the bios, but I haven't installed it yet. Maybe I should just update the ROM. Any ideas how?

edit: Current Update
  • Won't let me flash to the latest bios. Tried unzipping the .rom as well. Still won't allow the flash to happen (using ez flash).
  • Upped cpu, cpu/nb, nb voltages. Loaded default settings. No show.
  • Tried 3 cores. 2 Cores. 1 Core. Still won't get back windows loading screen.
 
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#3 ·
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Originally Posted by jpyumul View Post
So it's like your motherboard can't handle a quad. Did you try just 1 core unlocked instead of 2?
i'll give that a shot now.

It should be able to handle a quad, it can handle 6 cores apparently


edit: alright, tried with 3 cores disabled and it still wouldn't run.
 
#6 ·
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Originally Posted by FREELINE57 View Post
Have you updated the bios yet? When you unlocked to 4 cores did you bump up the vcore a notch? You may need more voltage to get it stable while unlocked.
tried all teh way up to 1.5V. But even at 1 core at stock voltage it should get past the windows loading screen shouldn't it?

how do i go about updating my bios on this mobo? when i got the mobo, about a few months ago, the shop updated the bios for me. but i notice there is a new one.

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Originally Posted by jpyumul View Post
No.. I mean 3 cores enabled

ooooh, haha, well i tried 3 cores. tried it with teh first 3 enabled, and then again with 1, 2, 4 core inenable. still no show.
 
#10 ·
tried all teh way up to 1.5V. But even at 1 core at stock voltage it should get past the windows loading screen shouldn't it?

how do i go about updating my bios on this mobo? when i got the mobo, about a few months ago, the shop updated the bios for me. but i notice there is a new one.

To check which version you have click on cpu-z motherboard tab and it will tell you what you have now.
Go to your motherboard website and DL the newest version and save to desktop, now drag and drop it on a blank flash drive. Your owners manual will tell you how to flash the bios using the flah drive.
 
#8 ·
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Originally Posted by jpyumul View Post
I hate to say this but it could be a bad chip. But it really doesn't make sense if 3,4 can run as perfect as 1,2. Is 3,4 stable at prime?
see i can't see why it could be a bad chip.

if 2 cores work when the core locker in disabled, but once enabled it doesn't work. even if only 1 core is enabled.
 
#16 ·
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Originally Posted by FREELINE57 View Post
Gonna check your bios.
Here:http://support.asus.com/download/download.aspx
Alright, so I tried that one too. Still says it is incompatible.

I am for sure using the right model number and all.

Current version is 1456 or whatever.

edit: i had to go searching to find the driver. that link didn't lead me to a specific driver (if your original link was suppose to get to a certain file).
 
#17 ·
Have you set Unleash Mode to Enabled?

Most BIOS' use two things to unlock cores, ACC is just one item on a BIOS, usually there's something else that helps or two things combined that make it a successful unlock aswell as stable.

My first BIOS for this MSI Mobo had an option called "EC Firmware" that I had to set to Special to unlock the cores. Dunno what it changed to in the newer BIOS', but it's the same principle.
 
#18 ·
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Originally Posted by EvoBeardy View Post
Have you set Unleash Mode to Enabled?

Most BIOS' use two things to unlock cores, ACC is just one item on a BIOS, usually there's something else that helps or two things combined that make it a successful unlock aswell as stable.

My first BIOS for this MSI Mobo had an option called "EC Firmware" that I had to set to Special to unlock the cores. Dunno what it changed to in the newer BIOS', but it's the same principle.
alright, so. I don't seem to see something like unleash mode. My CPU options are:
microcode updation
secure virtual machine mode
coolnquiet
c1e support
*bolded items i can't select*
asus core unlocker
cpu core activation

then i found something else that seems like EC firmware mode or whatever.
but it is called ECC mode (gives me 5 options, basic, good, super, max, and user).
in the list there are other things like dram ecc enable, 4 bit ecc, l2 and l3 cache scrub.
 
#19 ·
Alright, so I tried a few more things, still on success. I watched a video where a guy was trying to unlock an x3 on the same board. At first it wouldn't let him, afterwards, after changing his boot order, it got into windows. Difference was, he was getting BSOD at the same screen, I was just getting black screens.

Heres the vid:



Tried the same thing, didn't work. Also changed some of the spectrums to disable. Still no didn't work.
 
#20 ·
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Originally Posted by Domino View Post
Alright, so I tried that one too. Still says it is incompatible.

I am for sure using the right model number and all.

Current version is 1456 or whatever.

edit: i had to go searching to find the driver. that link didn't lead me to a specific driver (if your original link was suppose to get to a certain file).
At the manufactures website the newest version for your motherboard is v. 1606.
Just curious,...you state that bios flash is incompatable, did you have another chip in this board and just swapped it out for the one your using now?
Cool&quiet greyed out- did you install chipset drivers?
 
#21 ·
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Originally Posted by FREELINE57
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At the manufactures website the newest version for your motherboard is v. 1606.
Just curious,...you state that bios flash is incompatable, did you have another chip in this board and just swapped it out for the one your using now?
Cool&quiet greyed out- did you install chipset drivers?

hmmmmm!

I thought cnq was more based on the bios and not the drivers of the OS itself? I'll give it a shot of reinstalling chipset drivers.

There was no chip in this puppy before (unless there was when they tested it at the shop). When I got the board they offered a mem/cpu/heatsink put together and test. Alright, it also seems the drivers I'm installing are for an earilier date for some reason. Oh you know what, I wonder if I'm getting the month/year/day backwards. xD

I'll give it another shot.

edit:lol i was selecting the non GTD version. :/ Alright thanks, I'll give this a shot now.

edit2:alrigth, updated bios, latest chipset drivers. cnq and c1e still not accessiable.

also, still same story on unlocking. i can have 1 or 2 cores enabled under the unlocker and it still doesn't load into windows.
 
#24 ·
Change CPU voltage mode to offset to adjust your C1E and CnQ. Those should be disable anyways.
 
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#25 ·
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Originally Posted by Wildcard36qs View Post
Change CPU voltage mode to offset to adjust your C1E and CnQ. Those should be disable anyways.
offset voltages? Haven't work with that before.

Wonder if C1E and CnQ could be disabled after that. Nice idea, I'll give it a shot in a bit. though cnq is suppose to be disabled after you hit over 3800mhz eh?
edit: alright, tried it, no luck.
 
#26 ·
okai, weird news.

I have the cores enabled right now, but running in express gate. At first it was all funkay. Ran it again, still funkay. Ran it again, everything seems fine.

Don't really want to try running in the OS yet. xD I wonder if I am actually running 4 cores. Is there a way to check online? Maybe linux has a CPU-Z version for linux (express gate). HMMMM!

edit:i've also contacted asus and we exhausted all possible options on how to unlock cores. However, I'm in express gate right now with 4 cores enabled! eeek!!!!! i think, i don't know for sure, but the switch is turned on and is red showing 4 cores enabled. I wonder if i just "wore"/"broke in" the processor? Testing OS now.

edit2: aklright turns out my cores aren't enabled. ._.

plus asus had no idea why i could run with 1 or 2 cores enabled when the core unlocked was disabled, but once enabled I couldn't.
 
#28 ·
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Originally Posted by Domino View Post

okai, weird news.

I have the cores enabled right now, but running in express gate. At first it was all funkay. Ran it again, still funkay. Ran it again, everything seems fine.

Don't really want to try running in the OS yet. xD I wonder if I am actually running 4 cores. Is there a way to check online? Maybe linux has a CPU-Z version for linux (express gate). HMMMM!

edit:i've also contacted asus and we exhausted all possible options on how to unlock cores. However, I'm in express gate right now with 4 cores enabled! eeek!!!!! i think, i don't know for sure, but the switch is turned on and is red showing 4 cores enabled. I wonder if i just "wore"/"broke in" the processor? Testing OS now.

edit2: aklright turns out my cores aren't enabled. ._.

plus asus had no idea why i could run with 1 or 2 cores enabled when the core unlocked was disabled, but once enabled I couldn't.
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Originally Posted by acheleg View Post

your chip likely has a defective cache or cache interface for the last 2 cores. if the chip will run in LOCKED mode but wont run unlocked with the last 2 cores shut down, then it is defective cache
You just answered a question that was posted in 2010.
 
#29 ·
Serious necro there
 
#31 ·
Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino View Post

okai, weird news.

I have the cores enabled right now, but running in express gate. At first it was all funkay. Ran it again, still funkay. Ran it again, everything seems fine.

Don't really want to try running in the OS yet. xD I wonder if I am actually running 4 cores. Is there a way to check online? Maybe linux has a CPU-Z version for linux (express gate). HMMMM!

edit:i've also contacted asus and we exhausted all possible options on how to unlock cores. However, I'm in express gate right now with 4 cores enabled! eeek!!!!! i think, i don't know for sure, but the switch is turned on and is red showing 4 cores enabled. I wonder if i just "wore"/"broke in" the processor? Testing OS now.

edit2: aklright turns out my cores aren't enabled. ._.

plus asus had no idea why i could run with 1 or 2 cores enabled when the core unlocked was disabled, but once enabled I couldn't.
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Originally Posted by acheleg View Post

your chip likely has a defective cache or cache interface for the last 2 cores. if the chip will run in LOCKED mode but wont run unlocked with the last 2 cores shut down, then it is defective cache
You just answered a question that was posted in 2010.
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Originally Posted by acheleg View Post

it could have been answered in 2010. gheeze, these forums dont get a lot of activity, i only went back a few pages.
"not a lot of activity"? Some threads are multiple hundreds of pages.
 
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