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post #10151 of 16067
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Originally Posted by Rar4f View Post

I used 4 of rubber rings on a bottom fan. Is it maybe wiser to use them for motherboard stand offs instead?

I use silicon mounts. Like these:



http://www.frozencpu.com/products/19479/scr-704/Akasa_Rubber_Anti-Vibration_Fan_Screw_for_Closed_Chassis_Fans_-_20-Pack_AK-MX003.html?tl=g47c111s1260

You can get better prices at places like moddiy, I paid less for my pack, forget where I go them though. Coolerguys? The long ones are for closed mounting holes, there are shorter ones for open mounting hole fans.

Much much easier to install and remove. Noctua fans each come with a set of these.

Do motherboard standoff need rubber rings? I've never done that.
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To late for me to order small stuff now. And no i don't think motherboard needs rubber rings but i thought for myself that it doesn't sound like a bad idea tongue.gif
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Well the Fractals move no air imho so the Noctuas are better, not that I ever did a test or anything, I just felt the lack of air from the Fractals and used different fans. The Noctuas make a lot more noise though. I use them but I don't think they're the best around, but I do like the 6 year warranty and the accessories they come with and they are pretty good. The discontinued NF P14s are cheap-ish these days ($17 or so at Amazon) and those happen to be my favorite Noctua fans.

Aren't the P14's meant more for cpu coolers and radiators? Do they push a lot of air through the case?
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post #10154 of 16067
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Tricky part is the top because the 120mm mounting holes are not centered, they are offset so that if you mount 2 120mm fans they will be side by side. You need an adapter to use the 140mm mounting holes instead. The ones that come with the NF P14 are the best imho, far better than the Bitspower etc funnel style adapters:

Thank you finally now I can feel good about ordering them :thumbsups

    
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installed my ZxR tonight and decided I will take a pic of my RIG



and noctua fans are great - I am using 4x NF A14 ULN and 4x NF S12 ULN. All of them with LNA adapters and my AC Accelero on 50%. Loudest thing in my PC is now my WD 1 Caviar Black biggrin.gif

Cant compare Noctuas and Fractal ones - I replaced all my fans with Noctua ones the moment my case arrived
Just like my system 6x Noctua A14 and 2x Noctua P12. I have Accelero on my 670.
    
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Aren't the P14's meant more for cpu coolers and radiators? Do they push a lot of air through the case?

Well my guess is that a fan with a round frame isn't ideal for mounting on a square case fan slot, assuming that the mount is 140mm x 140mm. That's just a guess, I'm assuming that the crescent gaps left in the corners that a square frame fan would cover might result in some sort of air leak. Maybe one of the experts like ehume or doyll could chime in? If my guess is right I would assume these fans are better for exhaust than intake, where those gaps wouldn't matter. (And might even be helpful?) I don't use the NF P14s in the front mounts, I got NF A14 FLXs for those.

But, performance wise, the NF P14s work great for me. I had NZXT FX 140LBs mounted everywhere, those are high performance 2000rpm fans with high static pressure, they are the stock fans for the Kraken water coolers, I replaced those with the Noctuas, including P14s, and got the same temp results. Of the Noctua fans I've tried (P14, P12, A14 FLX, A14 PWM, A15 PWM), the P14 sounds the best. I think it's those vortex control notches Noctua no longer uses on their 140mm fans. You can hear them, but it's a non-intrusive low hum, whereas the other Noctuas when spinning at audible rpms produce more of a throbbing sound. I'm keen on these P14s. I'm seriously thinking about picking some more up before they're all gone, since they're discontinued, and using only these fans everywhere.

I know all the experts are big into the Thermalrights, but the P14 gives me the same temps and sound a LOT better. Not even close, the TY 14xs are so sound intrusive compared to the P14s.
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post #10157 of 16067
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But, performance wise, the NF P14s work great for me. I had NZXT FX 140LBs mounted everywhere, those are high performance 2000rpm fans with high static pressure, they are the stock fans for the Kraken water coolers, I replaced those with the Noctuas, including P14s, and got the same temp results. Of the Noctua fans I've tried (P14, P12, A14 FLX, A14 PWM, A15 PWM), the P14 sounds the best. I think it's those vortex control notches Noctua no longer uses on their 140mm fans. You can hear them, but it's a non-intrusive low hum, whereas the other Noctuas when spinning at audible rpms produce more of a throbbing sound. I'm keen on these P14s. I'm seriously thinking about picking some more up before they're all gone, since they're discontinued, and using only these fans everywhere.

I know all the experts are big into the Thermalrights, but the P14 gives me the same temps and sound a LOT better. Not even close, the TY 14xs are so sound intrusive compared to the P14s.
This is practically the conclusion you can draw from the SPCR First 140 mm Fan Roundup: Noctua, Phanteks, Xigmatek, but the Phantek 140s came better and so in the Second 140 mm Fan Roundup: Antec, bequiet!, Corsair, Scythe the antec 140s came as the winners over the P14, i had a chance to play with one on a NH-D14 and its a great fan, but personally i just move on to PWM fans all around, and noctuas NF-A14 and NF-A15 PWM simply have the best range of control in the market for 140s, they might not be as pleasing on sonic tone as the P14, the phanteks or antec, but all of those are 3pin, and i would have to mod so much to get the same settings that i have including going into a Asus or search for a one that will work with Speedfan..... and to me not worth it when MSI and AsRock have such a good pure BIOS PWM fan control.
Edited by Abula - 12/8/13 at 5:19am
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post #10158 of 16067
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Originally Posted by Sp33d Junki3 View Post

Just like my system 6x Noctua A14 and 2x Noctua P12. I have Accelero on my 670.

And mine. Using the ULN 140mm
2 front intake
1 side intake
1 bottom intake
1 back exhaust
1 top exhaust
post #10159 of 16067
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This is practically the conclusion you can draw from the SPCR First 140 mm Fan Roundup: Noctua, Phanteks, Xigmatek, but the Phantek 140s came better and so in the Second 140 mm Fan Roundup: Antec, bequiet!, Corsair, Scythe the antec 140s came as the winners over the P14, i had a chance to play with one on a NH-D14 and its a great fan, but personally i just move on to PWM fans all around, and noctuas NF-A14 and NF-A15 PWM simply have the best range of control in the market for 140s, they might not be as pleasing on sonic tone as the P14, the phanteks or antec, but all of those are 3pin, and i would have to mod so much to get the same settings that i have including going into a Asus or search for a one that will work with Speedfan..... and to me not worth it when MSI and AsRock have such a good pure BIOS PWM fan control.

I have absolutely hated the Gigabyte PWN controls in my system I'll tell you that much. Honestly if I could sell my UD4H I would and replace it with a MSI. I think their BIOS are much more user friendly. So I'm looking for a front fan controller for the Arc Midi that has both PWM and 3 pin.
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How good is Fractals support ? Are they sending replacement parts world-wide ?
My XL R2 come with a broken front panel and local shop advised me to contact Fractal Design directly.
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