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post #10211 of 16055
A letter in the case is for standard ATX motherboards correct?
post #10212 of 16055
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Originally Posted by Rar4f View Post

A letter in the case is for standard ATX motherboards correct?

Yeah that's right.
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post #10213 of 16055
So no one has used the Node 605?
post #10214 of 16055
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Originally Posted by NiKa View Post

I wanted to ask some questions about...
Fractal Design Define XL R2

I am thinking of building another new server that can hold as many hard drives as possible...
using This Motherboard that has 22 SATA slots...

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z87%20Extreme11ac/index.us.asp

but for $550....

Fractal Design Define XL R2
i see that it has 8 hard drive bays

maybe use this
http://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=48
for 5 more hard drives,

and i am thinking if i can attach additional hard drive cages
http://www.fractal-design-shop.de/index.php?a=323 (for 4 more hard drives)
and
http://www.fractal-design-shop.de/index.php?a=388 (for 4 more hard drives)

Total 8+5+4+4=21 hard drives...
(with the Asrock Motherboard with the 22 Sata slots)

I asked Fractal if this is a viable build...
They responded:
"The lower HDD cage will fit, but I haven't tested an additional lower HDD cage in combination with the top HDD cage in a case with the motherboad installed, so I can't say for sure.
Otherwise this looks like a doable solution."

Any suggestions?
For 21 HDD i suggest more a Norco 4224 or 4220, given that they are expensive cases, they are wroth it into how much eaiser will be to manage so many hdds later on. And about the AsRock imo not worth it, just get a motherboard that has at least 2x PCIe 4x and get some IBM 1015 on ebay, this way even if the motherboard fails or you want to upgrade to a new setup later on, you can move the PCie cards with the new setup and dont loss so much as little is invested in the motherboard.
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post #10215 of 16055
New Arc MIDI R2 owner!! Please add me to the club!

I am just starting to put together (frankly at this point it's more "taking apart" than building) and I have a dilemma.

I want to have a positive pressure case, and want to use all 3 of the stock 140mm fans, along with 2 of the infamous "Group Buy" 2150 Gentle Typhoons on my radiator, pulling air in. The rear and top fans would be exhaust, and then if I could mount another 140mm on the bottom as intake (for GPU & more positive pressure), that'd be great. But I just discovered that moving the bottom HDD cage back to the next mount point covers the 140mm bottom fan holes (and the 120mm holes, too).

I'd mount the radiator on top, but I'd rather have the more natural bottom/front intake ==>> rear/top exhaust pattern.

If I could just attach the bottom (shorter) drive cage to the optical bay, that would be great. I could probably find a spot to mount my single HDD without a cage, and use the MB SSD mount... leaving all that space free... But I was going to put my pump on top of the drive cage, or sitting inside the larger/top drive cage if I end up attaching it from the bottom of the optical bay ... but it might not have be in the way of the front mounted Rad...

Any advice?




There are so many possibilities, but I keep finding faults in the basics... how do you guys run your fans for top mounted radiators? Merci Beaucoup!
post #10216 of 16055
Putting a 280mm Rad in the front of my R4 with push/pull fans. Got 2x 7970 to cool.
removing both drive bays of course.

Think I can get away with a 60mm thick 280mm? (plus 50mm of fans)
post #10217 of 16055
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Originally Posted by passinos View Post

Putting a 280mm Rad in the front of my R4 with push/pull fans. Got 2x 7970 to cool.
removing both drive bays of course.

Think I can get away with a 60mm thick 280mm? (plus 50mm of fans)
I know people have 280 ut60s and such in front of the midi r2 & it is basically the same size, but I cant say for sure how easy it would be. I am about to order a ut60 280 for the front of my midi r2 and I also have an r4. It might be a while but I can check the fit when I get it if no one else chimes in first.
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post #10218 of 16055
Hi,

The Midi R2 can technically fit a 280mm up top and I currently have a 55mm thick EK one up there with two Yate Loons. Trouble is you can't use the rear fan's mounting wholes because of it. I was able to squeeze a stock FD 140mm Fan back there and keep it in place using velcro but I had to sort of trim down the top of it and it's still a very tight fit.
I'd like to eventually fully equip my rig with Akasa Apache fans like my front rad has.
What I'm wondering is how many rads people can fit in an R2. I'd like to swap my top rad out for either a thinner 280mm or a 360mm rad but the first would be a slight downgrade whereas the latter would be sort of a sidegrade. I'm cooling an i7-860 overclocked by 40% and a stock R9 290 and wouldn't refuse a few degrees less on at least the GPU. Where else would you lot put rads ?
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Originally Posted by gdubc View Post

I know people have 280 ut60s and such in front of the midi r2 & it is basically the same size, but I cant say for sure how easy it would be. I am about to order a ut60 280 for the front of my midi r2 and I also have an r4. It might be a while but I can check the fit when I get it if no one else chimes in first.

One of my best friends (and the only person I know whose into watercooling and computers) has an R4 with a UT60 and Four Vipers up front. So Yes it will fit. He even left the ODD bays.
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post #10219 of 16055
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Originally Posted by ZeVo View Post

Sorry for quoting you so many months later I have the same exact problem with my Midi R1. Did you ever find out what was wrong? Or if it happened with the Midi R2 too? I honestly thought to myself what in the world is going on.. I shifted my mobo forward and back but still it doesn't fit in perfectly. I'm already out of warranty on the case, maybe I gotta save up for a R4 or Midi R2 if they go on sale.
Anyone..?
post #10220 of 16055
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Originally Posted by steelkevin View Post

Hi,

The Midi R2 can technically fit a 280mm up top and I currently have a 55mm thick EK one up there with two Yate Loons. Trouble is you can't use the rear fan's mounting wholes because of it. I was able to squeeze a stock FD 140mm Fan back there and keep it in place using velcro but I had to sort of trim down the top of it and it's still a very tight fit.
I'd like to eventually fully equip my rig with Akasa Apache fans like my front rad has.
What I'm wondering is how many rads people can fit in an R2. I'd like to swap my top rad out for either a thinner 280mm or a 360mm rad but the first would be a slight downgrade whereas the latter would be sort of a sidegrade. I'm cooling an i7-860 overclocked by 40% and a stock R9 290 and wouldn't refuse a few degrees less on at least the GPU. Where else would you lot put rads ?
One of my best friends (and the only person I know whose into watercooling and computers) has an R4 with a UT60 and Four Vipers up front. So Yes it will fit. He even left the ODD bays.
I put the ek triple p.e. up top of the empty midi r2 last night because I am also trying to decide what rad(s) to use up top. It seemed that for my setup only the thinnest triple would work and clear the cpu plug. I dont really like the looks of the thick rads blocking the top anyhow and I also want to use the rear as exaust but I wondered about squeezing a slim 280 in the offset but still adding a 120 rad in that weird top front spot and maybe sticking a flow meter between them or something.
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