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post #10221 of 16134
I am a proud new owner of Arc Midi R2. I sorta asked the same question this morning, but no one responded. I usual try to be more patient, but lately, across different areas on OCN, I ask for help and no one responds, which in my experience is not the OCN way. Are people holiday-busy? Do my pits stink? Should I have a tic-tac? Apologies for being a noodge, but I'm anxious to start putting my new build together... and could use the experience of Midi / Fractal case owners, please.

Two part question concerning mounting my two drives, one HDD, one SSD. I'd like to be able to mount my 240mm rad in front with fans as intake, and still be able to use the bottom fan mount for a 140 or at the very least, a 120 fan. Can't seem to do so with the bottom drive cage in the medium position, and rad won't fit unless I move it... So,
  1. Is it possible to attach the bottom cage directly to the bottom of the optical bay, without doing any modding? I'm wondering if I removed the plastic mounts from both the bay & the cage, if the screw holes would line up to allow that position;
  2. if not, I'm considering employing a leftover optical bay adapter for a 3.5 drive and maybe rivetting it to the optical bay, so I'll have an HDD place, and then will just put the SSD behind the mobo. Any other suggestions for where/how to mount a single HDD without using either of the cages (and both of the optical bay spots will be filled (stealth dvd + hidden rheosmart 3 to be left on PWM).

Please, any suggestions?

Thanks,
post #10222 of 16134
I think your best option is to do what you thought, using a adapter to install hdd in optical bay and put the ssd behind motherboard.
EDIT:
Maybe if you removed the part that's right below optical bay to support the top HDD cage, you could install a hdd there instead.
Edited by Rar4f - 12/13/13 at 11:44pm
post #10223 of 16134
@cyclometric

So you want to mount a single HDD without using the cages or a 5.25 adaptor? You don't have a lot of options really unless you feel like getting crafty. What I've seen a lot of people do is take a piece of plexi or something and place it vertically in the space behind the cages and mount the drives to that.
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Originally Posted by Rar4f View Post

I think your best option is to do what you thought, using a adapter to install hdd in optical bay and put the ssd behind motherboard.
EDIT:
Maybe if you removed the part that's right below optical bay to support the top HDD cage, you could install a hdd there instead.

Do you mean the plastic thingamajig with the two grooves in it? What would the drive attach to? That's why I thought of somehow mounting an adapter to the bay... Maybe I should consider mounting the small rheosmart 3 fan controller somewhere else, and that'd leave me a bay to put the HDD in... thanks!

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@cyclometric

So you want to mount a single HDD without using the cages or a 5.25 adaptor? You don't have a lot of options really unless you feel like getting crafty. What I've seen a lot of people do is take a piece of plexi or something and place it vertically in the space behind the cages and mount the drives to that.

Right, I plan on having both of the bays filled already, and it would be nice to have something hanging below the optical serving two purposes: first, to mount the HDD and ideally the SSD, too, and second, with a shelf or other mount point for my pump, though that could probably go between the bottom fan and the rad.

Thank you both for responding! I no longer feel neglected! wheee.gif
post #10225 of 16134
This thing


Maybe it's a bad idea. But i thought if you could get a hdd to align with the holes in optical bay that the plastic thing is screwed to, maybe you can install hdd there.
But you'd need to find a way to secure it.
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Right, I plan on having both of the bays filled already, and it would be nice to have something hanging below the optical serving two purposes: first, to mount the HDD and ideally the SSD, too, and second, with a shelf or other mount point for my pump, though that could probably go between the bottom fan and the rad.

Thank you both for responding! I no longer feel neglected! wheee.gif

lol, not a problem. An SSD can really go anywhere you can fit it. You can get some velcro and mount it to the back of the 5.25 bays. Might be a little difficult with the screws for those bays in place. Also, look at the pic, this is what I was thinking of in my first post.



EDIT:

Also, you can get something like these to mount a pump or rez.
Edited by echo27fire - 12/14/13 at 12:22am
post #10227 of 16134
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I wanted to ask some questions about...
Fractal Design Define XL R2

I am thinking of building another new server that can hold as many hard drives as possible...
using This Motherboard that has 22 SATA slots...

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z87%20Extreme11ac/index.us.asp

but for $550....

Fractal Design Define XL R2
i see that it has 8 hard drive bays

maybe use this
http://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=48
for 5 more hard drives,

and i am thinking if i can attach additional hard drive cages
http://www.fractal-design-shop.de/index.php?a=323 (for 4 more hard drives)
and
http://www.fractal-design-shop.de/index.php?a=388 (for 4 more hard drives)

Total 8+5+4+4=21 hard drives...
(with the Asrock Motherboard with the 22 Sata slots)

I asked Fractal if this is a viable build...
They responded:
"The lower HDD cage will fit, but I haven't tested an additional lower HDD cage in combination with the top HDD cage in a case with the motherboad installed, so I can't say for sure.
Otherwise this looks like a doable solution."

Any suggestions?
For 21 HDD i suggest more a Norco 4224 or 4220, given that they are expensive cases, they are wroth it into how much eaiser will be to manage so many hdds later on. And about the AsRock imo not worth it, just get a motherboard that has at least 2x PCIe 4x and get some IBM 1015 on ebay, this way even if the motherboard fails or you want to upgrade to a new setup later on, you can move the PCie cards with the new setup and dont loss so much as little is invested in the motherboard.

Never thought on failure matter...
Will consider the 1015 oprion...
Norcos have great storage capabilities but are really ugly... smile.gif
post #10228 of 16134
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lol, not a problem. An SSD can really go anywhere you can fit it. You can get some velcro and mount it to the back of the 5.25 bays. Might be a little difficult with the screws for those bays in place. Also, look at the pic, this is what I was thinking of in my first post.



EDIT:

Also, you can get something like these to mount a pump or rez.
Man I love that build. Don't remember his username, but I recognize his work.
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post #10229 of 16134
How ya doin fellow Fractal fans tongue.gif

My 360mm radiator adapter is completed:

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The fans are attached using pressure, no bolts here. smile.gif

Lian Li case feet instead of the fake ones:

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Edited by adi518 - 12/14/13 at 8:40am
post #10230 of 16134
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Hi,

The Midi R2 can technically fit a 280mm up top and I currently have a 55mm thick EK one up there with two Yate Loons. Trouble is you can't use the rear fan's mounting wholes because of it. I was able to squeeze a stock FD 140mm Fan back there and keep it in place using velcro but I had to sort of trim down the top of it and it's still a very tight fit.
I'd like to eventually fully equip my rig with Akasa Apache fans like my front rad has.
What I'm wondering is how many rads people can fit in an R2. I'd like to swap my top rad out for either a thinner 280mm or a 360mm rad but the first would be a slight downgrade whereas the latter would be sort of a sidegrade. I'm cooling an i7-860 overclocked by 40% and a stock R9 290 and wouldn't refuse a few degrees less on at least the GPU. Where else would you lot put rads ?
One of my best friends (and the only person I know whose into watercooling and computers) has an R4 with a UT60 and Four Vipers up front. So Yes it will fit. He even left the ODD bays.


Do you think with a slimmer 280 up top the rear fan would fit better? Is is close enough that maybe even a different brand radiator thats a little shorter would work? Sorry, just dont want to end up with a bunch of stuff I dont need!
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