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No, rad fans should be intake as the air outside the case is cooler than inside, thus they will perform slightly better with cooler air being forced through them.
Most Intel NB are fine with stock heat sinks. AMD NB are usually better to be under water. I would run without the NB and then add a block if it is a problem

Okay so how are you going to exhaust the case of the heat that is created by what the water blocks will not take out. Your going to have hot spots if the case if it is all intake or push for that matter. Maybe I missed something in the diagram. Everybody's case is different. Me personally I have 2x120 cut right under my radiators and fans that draw cold air in then pushed threw the radiator. I keep my system at 35C and a max CPU at 55C under full load. 3x video cards never go above 46C max. Holding back at least 1000W at full blast. thumb.gif
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Okay so how are you going to exhaust the case of the heat that is created by what the water blocks will not take out. Your going to have hot spots if the case if it is all intake or push for that matter. Maybe I missed something in the diagram. Everybody's case is different. Me personally I have 2x120 cut right under my radiators and fans that draw cold air in then pushed threw the radiator. I keep my system at 35C and a max CPU at 55C under full load. 3x video cards never go above 46C max. Holding back at least 1000W at full blast. thumb.gif

Hot spots are not as big of a deal with watercooling and positive pressure is a good thing as well.

I am not suggesting that they all be intake, but most rads should be. I typically run all intake and then have my rear case fan be exhaust.
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Good point on the drive cage, I don't think it will fit under the Titan block anyway, and I don't need it. I already have a Silverstone 5.25 adapter that fits 2x 2.5" and 1 3.5". I could put my 2 SSDs on the back of the MB tray (I left them in the silverstone), and then put the rest of my drives in the silverstone adapter. Then I could ditch the HDD cage entirely.

My PSU is a 160mm X750, but need to upgrade to a 850w or 1000w, so I could use the extra space anyway. My Titans are kicking my poor X750 around, I've had it reset several times.

I like your idea of the Monsta or UT60. Are those really better? I assume they should be since they have almost 2x the surface area. Will my AF140s work with them?
Good points. I just like the kit that the AX240 comes with.

+Rep to everyone.

The UT60/Monsta are very good. Since they do have more surface area, they can pull more heat out of the fluid, you are correct. They are also lower FPI which allows you to achieve decent cooling (with the surface area from the thickness) with lower RPM fans, so you get quietness. Especially if you run push/pull, you can get a lot of heat dissipation for only running your fans at 1000RPM or less thumb.gif

I would not use the AFs on rads personally as they do have much static pressure. I personally am a fan of GT AP15s, but the Noiseblockers and SP120s are very good too.
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Originally Posted by Jflisk View Post

Okay so how are you going to exhaust the case of the heat that is created by what the water blocks will not take out. Your going to have hot spots if the case if it is all intake or push for that matter. Maybe I missed something in the diagram. Everybody's case is different. Me personally I have 2x120 cut right under my radiators and fans that draw cold air in then pushed threw the radiator. I keep my system at 35C and a max CPU at 55C under full load. 3x video cards never go above 46C max. Holding back at least 1000W at full blast. thumb.gif

I intended to keep 1 of the stock Fractal 140mm fans in the rear as a discharge. My fault, I should have included it in the diagram, I didn't because it isn't part of the loop, but it will exhaust the heat from the 2 rads which I assumed should be set to intake air. Thanks for your help.
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The UT60/Monsta are very good. Since they do have more surface area, they can pull more heat out of the fluid, you are correct. They are also lower FPI which allows you to achieve decent cooling (with the surface area from the thickness) with lower RPM fans, so you get quietness. Especially if you run push/pull, you can get a lot of heat dissipation for only running your fans at 1000RPM or less thumb.gif

I would not use the AFs on rads personally as they do have much static pressure. I personally am a fan of GT AP15s, but the Noiseblockers and SP120s are very good too.

I will switch the EX280 rad to a UT60 280mm. I measured my case, and I don't think the 80mm thick Monsta will work for me well since that D5 Photon pump/res is pretty big.

Maybe I should downgrade the 280mm rad to a 240mm, and use some of the saved $$$ to get a pair of SP120s. What do you think? Right now I am already over budget, so I wanted to keep my original fans, but I realize they don't have much static pressure.
 
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I intended to keep 1 of the stock Fractal 140mm fans in the rear as a discharge. My fault, I should have included it in the diagram, I didn't because it isn't part of the loop, but it will exhaust the heat from the 2 rads which I assumed should be set to intake air. Thanks for your help.
I will switch the EX280 rad to a UT60 280mm. I measured my case, and I don't think the 80mm thick Monsta will work for me well since that D5 Photon pump/res is pretty big.

Maybe I should downgrade the 280mm rad to a 240mm, and use some of the saved $$$ to get a pair of SP120s. What do you think? Right now I am already over budget, so I wanted to keep my original fans, but I realize they don't have much static pressure.

D5 pump is a awesome pump.Ill leave it at that thumb.gif
post #10416 of 16291
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Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but I think the loop is the wrong way. You want the outlet on the pump not the inlet. Otherwise you would have a tube in the way. Would help with looks.

Also how long are the graphics cards. My case is pretty tight with a tube res, and a 60mm rad.
post #10417 of 16291
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Hot spots are not as big of a deal with watercooling and positive pressure is a good thing as well.

I am not suggesting that they all be intake, but most rads should be. I typically run all intake and then have my rear case fan be exhaust.
This is exactly how I run my case too. Keep the positive pressure with mostly intakes and have a single exhaust. If you troll the WC forums then you see this is the most commonly advised way to set it up.
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post #10419 of 16291
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This is exactly how I run my case too. Keep the positive pressure with mostly intakes and have a single exhaust. If you troll the WC forums then you see this is the most commonly advised way to set it up.


Maybe I miss said something before. 2 x 140 front fans intake. 2 x 120 side fans on 240 rad intake bottom of case.1 x 180 on side of case around gpu intake. 2x 120 side top case intake for top 240mm radiator 2 x120 push .Rear radiator top back 120mm exhaust push /pull.All intakes filtered.Only come on when gaming using controller computer. Temps AMD CPU 9590 5.0ghz 35C min-55C max. 7990 36C min 46C max + 7970 6gb vapor x 36C min 46Cmax. Heat dissipation without using kilowatt around or about 1000W . To each there own what works in mine might not work in someone elses. Thanks

I have all this in a Define R1 case. See pics Below

Anoxy - how are you doing?
Edited by Jflisk - 1/9/14 at 10:12am
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