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The fractal fans are decent so I wouldn't discard them lightly. Fractal is evolutionary in innovation. Case fans have in the past been controlled by voltage, and it is a bit more expensive to make PWM fans,

Perhaps they could offer their cases without fans. Then those that want Fractal 3pin fans can simply buy them.
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My Define XL build. Working on a white and grey R2 mini now smile.gif
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Awesome! I too have Enermax fans in my Antec 1200... Reduced sound dramatically!

I've only tried the 120mm fans 900rpm.

Are those 120's or 140?

I want to try the 140's in a new define R4 as soon as I can shell out the cash. Just hope they're as silent as the 120's
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Switched from R1 to a R4 and picked up some corsair parts.
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Very nice. I am thinking about going from an R3 to an R4 or R2 XL. Not sure which. Seems too small of a step to an R4, and the XL is only about $20 more with lots of space for future expansion.

Then again I understand FD is coming out with an all black (PCI slo covers and all) R4 pretty soon.

Hey I see it is your first post. Welcome to the forums!

Interesting, how did the HDD cage supplant the 5.25" bays?

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Edited by GeneO - 1/29/14 at 8:37pm
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Originally Posted by beans444 View Post

Awesome! I too have Enermax fans in my Antec 1200... Reduced sound dramatically!

I've only tried the 120mm fans 900rpm.

Are those 120's or 140?

I want to try the 140's in a new define R4 as soon as I can shell out the cash. Just hope they're as silent as the 120's

Those are the 120s. I'm sure the 140s are great too but in a fractal almost anything will be silent tongue.gif
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Thanks for welcoming me.

I have already gone though every page on this thread

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Interesting, how did the HDD cage supplant the 5.25" bays

A drill and some screws. I popped the rivets that held the 5.25 in place, which was easier then I thought it would be.
I do have the plastic part between the top of the HHD cage as a spacer, so I have 4 screw going through the top of the case to the hard drive cage, also I have the angled part to add side support.


Edited by rob-o - 1/29/14 at 8:55pm
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What is the width difference between the R4 and the XL R2? FD's specs say the XL R2 and R4 are the same width, 232mm, but at least two reviews say the XL R2 is wider.
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R2 XL Case dimensions (WxHxD): 232 x 559 x 560mm

R4 Case dimensions (WxHxD): 232 x 464 x 523mm

R3 Case dimensions (WxHxD): 207 x 442 x 521mm


The R4 is the same width as the XL but the XL is a bit longer and a good amount taller.

The R4 was a decent change in size from the R3. The R2 and R1 where close in size to the R3.
post #10559 of 16063
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Dunno about the Asrock but the Asus h87m-e chassis headers are true pwm with 4th pin being speed control (versus some of their other channel boards where the 4th pin is an odd +5v). But it does not have the physical toggle built in to the fan header that detects whether the fan is 3 pin or 4 pin and the manual states that Fan Xpert 2 only works with the cpu headers. So my guess would be that a 3 pin would operate full speed. But maybe qfan control via uefi or bios works, not sure.

This is why I've gone 180 on this issue and come to appreciate that my z87 pro has fake pwm headers that operate on voltage control, I can still use 3 pin fans. I don't need a fan to go lower than the 40-60% these headers allow. I doubt voltage control damages the noctua fans I have since they come with low noise adapters that operate on the same principle as voltage controlled fan headers.


Taem

What do you think to this:



Youre using 3 pin fans on the Asus z87 pro which are connected to GND/CHA FAN PWR/CHA FAN IN. I assume your bios controls your fan speeds without any problem, and changes them as necessary?

The Asus H87 has the PWR rather than your 5v BUT the other 3 pin names are exactly the same as your Z87.

I would therefore expect 3 pins fans on the H87 and Z87 to behave the same way. Agree?
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Originally Posted by mercuk View Post

Youre using 3 pin fans on the Asus z87 pro which are connected to GND/CHA FAN PWR/CHA FAN IN. I assume your bios controls your fan speeds without any problem, and changes them as necessary?

The Asus H87 has the PWR rather than your 5v BUT the other 3 pin names are exactly the same as your Z87.

I would therefore expect 3 pins fans on the H87 and Z87 to behave the same way. Agree?

No. The 12v power pin on a 3 pin header can be regulated down to 7v, 5v, etc by the mobo to control fan speed while the 12v pin on a true pwm header operates at a fixed 12v and it's the speed control signal on the 4th pin that pulses that 12v to control fan speed. So the 12v pin on my board is a voltage regulating pin while on the h87m-e it's probably a fixed 12v.

On the cpu headers on both boards, the 12v pin can operate at both fixed 12v and regulated 12v; the fan header has a tiny knob built in to it that depresses when you plug in a 4 pin fan, and when that knob is pressed in, the 12v pin switches to fixed 12v and speed is controlled by pwm signal, if you plug in a 3 pin fan, the knob does not get pressed and the 12v pin operates in voltage regulation mode so you can control 3 pin fans.

As far as I can tell the h87m-e chassis fan headers do not have this knob, which is why I'm guessing 3 pin fans can't be controlled by it.
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Crucial m500 SSD LG GGC H20L Bluray/HDDVD combo drive Watercool Heatkiller IV Pro all copper Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 420 radiator 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 280 radiator Watercool Heatkiller GPU-X3 290X Windows 8.1 Qnix QX2710LED 27" 2560x1440 monitor 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Logitech K360 wireless keyboard EVGA 1000w P2 Phanteks Enthoo Primo white Logitech Performance MX wireless mouse 
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