Originally Posted by beans444
Interesting, 120mm fan option in the top? 140 would be preferable. I have 3 120 intakes in my Antec1200.. Had to change stock to Enermax fans as stock was way to loud..
I think I can deal with one less fan in the front. I'll miss the dual 120mm rear and 200mm top fans in the Antec but sound seems like my biggest problem at the moment. As well as the side window lol.. Antec 1200 has a very ugly side window.
I think I'll get a new psu before committing to a new case. Although, maybe it's time for a brand new build! first gen i7-930 p6x58d premium build here. lol.. I doubt the girlfriend will be as excited about the idea.
What I'm finding with the R4, the lower front fan is almost totally obstructed by the hdd cage, it's basically an hdd cooling fan. And if you install a long videocard, that bisects the airflow from the upper front fan as well. It gets even worse if you have a lot of hdds and need the upper hdd cage. A videocard also obstructs airflow from the bottom fan mount and bisects the airflow from the side mount. Basically, with a long videocard like a Sapphire 280x toxic, all the intake just feeds the gpu and the cpu cooler area just gets the hot air exhausted by the gpu. Without the videocard temps are great; with a videocard cpu and mobo temps go way up.
That's why I want a fan in the 5.25 bays, but with only two 5.25 bays in the R4, you're limited to an 80mm fan. With the four 5.25 bays in the XL R2, you can mount a 120mm fan to feed some air directly to the cpu cooler. I've never tried this config and don't know how much it would help. But at least it's an option in the XL R2. I'm sure you could fit a 140mm fan up there as well but I can only find 120mm fan mounts that go into 5.25 bays and I'm not a modder.
And if you use the bottom fan mount in the R4 -- which you probably should since like I said, the lower front intake is almost totally obstructed -- you are limited to 160mm depth psu's. Not many options, basically an xfx 850w or a silverstone strider up to 1000w. Or thortech lol.
With the XL R2, I can remove the upper drive cage and still fit 4 hdds in the lower cage, which I can move to the bottom fan mount to allow the lower front fan airflow to actually reach the chassis chamber. There's more depth so the upper front fan airflow has more distance to diffuse upward into the cpu area before it gets bisected by the videocard. And I can feed a bit more cool air to the cpu cooler with a 120mm fan in the 5.25 bays. And I can fit a psu beefy enough to take overclocked cpu and dual oc'd Gpus. And again, the XL R2 is not that much bigger than the R4, and the price is very similar. Right now XL R2 is $100 at newegg, free ship.