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Anyone running an i7 930 or similar cpu and or a gtx 770 - Gigabyte windforce card in a Define R4 on air? I would like to know if its worth getting this case if I don't go water cooling right away. (long wait)

I hit 65/67C full load on cpu with my evo 212 at 4ghz and gtx 770 the same in an Antec 1200 with Enermax 900rpm fans.

From links shown I'm expecting 5 to 10 degrees hotter but I doubt there's anything but stock fans in the test setups?

I'd like to use a bottom intake and a extra front intake for sure. Probably leave the top alone unless I grab some better fans and stick a stock fractal up there.

Thanks.
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Anyone running an i7 930 or similar cpu and or a gtx 770 - Gigabyte windforce card in a Define R4 on air? I would like to know if its worth getting this case if I don't go water cooling right away. (long wait)

I hit 65/67C full load on cpu with my evo 212 at 4ghz and gtx 770 the same in an Antec 1200 with Enermax 900rpm fans.

From links shown I'm expecting 5 to 10 degrees hotter but I doubt there's anything but stock fans in the test setups?

I'd like to use a bottom intake and a extra front intake for sure. Probably leave the top alone unless I grab some better fans and stick a stock fractal up there.

Thanks.
If you want to watercool, then look at the Arc Midi R2. This one has better option to watercool.
    
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If cooling is your thing the 'Arcs' are better than the 'Define' especially on air, however your Antec is a great case why change it?
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If cooling is your thing the 'Arcs' are better than the 'Define' especially on air, however your Antec is a great case why change it?

Ah, I am tired of taking out all the thumb screws to clean the fans and will end up making another computer so I want something more quiet.

The Arc midi R2 looks pretty awesome as well but like mentioned my antec 1200 is pretty similar.
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If you want to water cool I would skip even the midiR2. Dont get me wrong, I love mine but the miniR2 is more equipped out of the box, or the midiXL maybe even. Just the opinion of one MidiR2/Define R4 owner, lol!
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There is a small difference in clearance on the Midi R2 and Arc XL is about 5mm taller interior.
You can get same watercooling capabilities with both.
    
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Thanks for the replies! I'm cashing in my tax return soon, "poor student" Lol. I'm going to try price match with Canada Computers eh!
I'll make them open up boxes if I have to. R2/R4 stand off, I'd like to see the mini if its there also! and a new PSU, for sure! Time to hang up the loud ass 850w tx psu biggrin.gif

I think I'll study some sound tests to compare things a little more.

Edit:

Leaning towards the R4 after reading this. http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1888165/fractal-design-define-wait.html I want quiet.. tongue.gif

The best of both worlds here. Although, the Antec needs serious modifications which will be my final choice for water cooling and a big future project.
- new side panel window mod
- extra exhaust vents and modding mesh in the top for rad.

End result something similar to this.

Edited by beans444 - 2/10/14 at 9:22pm
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Thanks for the replies! I'm cashing in my tax return soon, "poor student" Lol. I'm going to try price match with Canada Computers eh!
I'll make them open up boxes if I have to. R2/R4 stand off, I'd like to see the mini if its there also! and a new PSU, for sure! Time to hang up the loud ass 850w tx psu biggrin.gif

I think I'll study some sound tests to compare things a little more.
If you want watercooling get the R2. R4 do no thave the top to properly mount a rad, as it is center, not offset.
Noise review is not out there, as everybody is different.
Once you start adding more fans, noise will be increased, that is what fan controllers and PWM fans are for. I havent see a case for the price that comes close to the R2.
    
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Finally got my h220 in my rig. Now I am just waiting on some ram and I have to reroute a couple stray cables. I am pleased with my r4 for the time being though. smile.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

looks clean and orderly.

you know that the radiator is installed upside-down? the fill port needs to be pointing upward.
if not, you should cant the front of the radiator up or lower the rear. reason would be that the
air can stay trapped at the opposite end of the hose intake. if not you'll be battling trapped air
problems in the future. as the amount of air inside the radiator can be as large as 10mm deep
and with that powerful of a pump will easily swallow air up on startup and produce trickling effect.

'sperience on my Arc Midi with the radiator mounted proper way up, the trapped air would not stay
in the reservoir. eventually, i had to "over fill" (2mm under fill port) and shimmed the rear of the
radiator (keeps the air away from the inlet tube) to keep it from sucking up air.

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so I'm a week away from ordering the guts for my arc xl, but I just can't quite build up enough guts to cut two holes in the case(for a drain port and a fill port). I have the bit, a drill, the fill/drain plugs and everything. I'm just too scared of making a mistake and making my case look like crap.
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