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I used to run 3 x AF140's and 2 x SP120's off of the built in fan controller on my R4 but they wouldn't spin until 12V then I was able to lower them to 7V and they worked ok.

Only changed to a dedicated fan controller because I nipped the Molex cable whilst removing a cable tie.
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I removed both cages right away since I had no use for them but I took a look and tried to figure it out. I doesn't seem like there is a way as I guess Fractal Design would rather you remove the larger cage. The anchor attached to the 3 drive cage is removable but there is no way to attach it to the 5 drive cage. doh.gif Hopefully there will be a revision in the future for that. After a short look, I don't see a way to secure it other than with zip ties. thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

Thanks for the reply. I guess I will either use both drive cages and have worse airflow OR use just the bottom cage for 3 hdd's, put 2 hdd's in the 5.25 bays with adapters and not install my optical drive, and put my ssd in the back in order to have better airflow.
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Originally Posted by coelacanth View Post

If you look at the amps of the fans and then look at the amperage that the built-in fan controller supplies you'll have your answer.

After some light googling it seems that the stock fans are .33A and the controller can provide 1A. So you're capped at 3 fans most likely.
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I used to run 3 x AF140's and 2 x SP120's off of the built in fan controller on my R4 but they wouldn't spin until 12V then I was able to lower them to 7V and they worked ok.

Only changed to a dedicated fan controller because I nipped the Molex cable whilst removing a cable tie.

Yeah, and more I look into it apparently certain fans have unusually high amperage requirement for "starting up"
Because of this I'm leaning towards buying PWM fans and going the PWM splitter route
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Yeah, and more I look into it apparently certain fans have unusually high amperage requirement for "starting up"
Because of this I'm leaning towards buying PWM fans and going the PWM splitter route

I just did this. Got a Swiftech 8-way PWM splitter. Putting 2 120mm Cougar PWM fans on the CPU cooler and 5 140mm Cougar PWM fans around the case (2 front intake, 1 door intake, 1 top exhaust, 1 rear exhaust). Going to set it all up on Saturday. I can't wait. I'm still trying to figure out where the PWM splitter will sit for best fan cable management etc.
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Originally Posted by coelacanth View Post

I just did this. Got a Swiftech 8-way PWM splitter. Putting 2 120mm Cougar PWM fans on the CPU cooler and 5 140mm Cougar PWM fans around the case (2 front intake, 1 door intake, 1 top exhaust, 1 rear exhaust). Going to set it all up on Saturday. I can't wait. I'm still trying to figure out where the PWM splitter will sit for best fan cable management etc.
Let me know where you end out mounting the splitter because I might end up buying the same one biggrin.gif
Looks like it's possible to screw it on somewhere
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Originally Posted by coelacanth View Post

I just did this. Got a Swiftech 8-way PWM splitter. Putting 2 120mm Cougar PWM fans on the CPU cooler and 5 140mm Cougar PWM fans around the case (2 front intake, 1 door intake, 1 top exhaust, 1 rear exhaust). Going to set it all up on Saturday. I can't wait. I'm still trying to figure out where the PWM splitter will sit for best fan cable management etc.

I would ditch the top fan, no need to pull more air out with enough positive air flow. Ditch the door intake, usually muddles air flow and creates eddies around the video card potentially. Put one of those two fans down on the bottom intake. The two front and one bottom will give great positive pressure and the one rear exhaust will provide enough pull from the case along with the natural evacuation.
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I would ditch the top fan, no need to pull more air out with enough positive air flow. Ditch the door intake, usually muddles air flow and creates eddies around the video card potentially. Put one of those two fans down on the bottom intake. The two front and one bottom will give great positive pressure and the one rear exhaust will provide enough pull from the case along with the natural evacuation.

Thanks for the advice. I've been trying to plan out what I want to do. My overarching goal is to have positive pressure. I will probably keep the door fan as an intake (or possibly exhaust, we'll see) because I have 2 GTX 780 Classifieds in SLI and they get hot! I was thinking about having another intake in the bottom but I know it's just going to be sucking dust nonstop. I'm also not sure if I can fit a bottom intake with my PSU. We'll see how it eventually turns out. Appreciate it, bud. thumb.gif
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Thanks for the advice. I've been trying to plan out what I want to do. My overarching goal is to have positive pressure. I will probably keep the door fan as an intake (or possibly exhaust, we'll see) because I have 2 GTX 780 Classifieds in SLI and they get hot! I was thinking about having another intake in the bottom but I know it's just going to be sucking dust nonstop. I'm also not sure if I can fit a bottom intake with my PSU. We'll see how it eventually turns out. Appreciate it, bud. thumb.gif
is the case you using in your sig?
The front fan is useless for cooling the case, due to the HDD cage blocking airflow.
200mm fans would be the best to use in the side and front. Not 120mm, as it limits the area of where the air will be.

Top exhaust is fine to use.
If that is not the case you use in your sig and got the Fractal, why use 120mm fans when 140mm would be the better choice?
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is the case you using in your sig?
The front fan is useless for cooling the case, due to the HDD cage blocking airflow.
200mm fans would be the best to use in the side and front. Not 120mm, as it limits the area of where the air will be.

Top exhaust is fine to use.
If that is not the case you use in your sig and got the Fractal, why use 120mm fans when 140mm would be the better choice?

I just bought the Fractal Arc Midi R2 with the door fan. I'm transitioning away from the Cooler Master Storm Sniper Black. For the Fractal I have bought 5 140mm Cougar PWM fans (I removed all of the Fractal non-PWM fans), and I'm trying to decide where to put the Cougar fans (they will all be connected to a Swiftech PWM splitter). I got the Fractal version with the door fan because SLI gets hot!

I think I will probably run one of these 3 setups:

1) 2 front intakes, 1 side intake, 1 rear exhaust, 1 top exhaust (5 140mm PWM fans total)
Or
2) 2 front intakes, 1 bottom intake, 1 side exhaust, 1 rear exhaust (5 140mm PWM fans total)
Or
3) 2 front intakes, 1 side intake, 1 bottom intake, 1 rear exhaust, 1 top exhaust (6 140mm PWM fans total)

I don't have enough time to play around with different configurations, measure temps etc., so whatever I decide before I slap everything together is what it's going to be. Because of extreme dust sucking I'm thinking I probably will not run a bottom intake and I'll just go with Option 1.

I read that the door fan option of the Arc Midi used to not come with a dust filter, but mine did. I'm going to take it off and replace it with a DEMCiflex magnetic filter though.

I'm planning to only use the lower 3 HD cage and leave the top 5 HD cage out (and put 2 SSDs behind the motherboard tray).
Edited by coelacanth - 3/6/14 at 12:03pm
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