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A bit disappointed I went with the Fractal Design Midi R2 case. I decided to replace the top 240mm Rad with a 360mm Rad to improve temps.

I like Fractal Design as a company mind you, they were very helpful when I broke the USB 3.0 case cable.

However, the Midi R2 is marketed as accepting a 360mm Rad, but in actuality it is far from functional, as the mounting screws don't align properly for a 360mm Rad, and you'd need to hack at or completely remove the disk drive cage by dealing with metal caps.

Notice, there was no way to actually use the fan screw mounts and I had to adapt.



As you can see, it is impossible to achieve a perfect push/pull configuration with a 360mm Rad.



I couldn't avoid the RAM as the length of the Rad hit the disk drive cage. The Blu-ray will also makes it impossible for a fan in pull in the drive cage.



Also the push/pull up front will result in the loss of the HDD cage.



Edited by Gunderman456 - 3/14/14 at 8:41pm
 
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I am about to finally work on my midiR2 tomorrow. I have a 280 rad for the top but I wonder if another 120 could be squeezed up in that front spot also? Dang I think I have had this case a year or more and I finally got all my h20 supplies to get it put together. Now if I could keep my son out of the hospital I might actually get some work done on this stuff!
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A bit disappointed I went with the Fractal Design Midi R2 case. I decided to replace the top 240mm Rad with a 360mm Rad to improve temps.

I like Fractal Design as a company mind you, they were very helpful when I broke the USB 3.0 case cable.

However, the Midi R2 is marketed as accepting a 360mm Rad, but in actuality it is far from functional, as the mounting screws don't align properly for a 360mm Rad, and you'd need to hack at or completely remove the disk drive cage by dealing with metal caps.
The Midi R2 was never marketed for a 360 rad. The Mini R2 supported 360 rad.
You have Maximus Gene and didnt get the Mini R2 which is what you were suppose to get.
You got the wrong case if you wanted to fit a 360 rad on top.

You can still use the HDD cage, you just need to move it over towards the PSU.
    
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The Midi R2 was never marketed for a 360 rad. The Mini R2 supported 360 rad.
You have Maximus Gene and didnt get the Mini R2 which is what you were suppose to get.
You got the wrong case if you wanted to fit a 360 rad on top.

You can still use the HDD cage, you just need to move it over towards the PSU.

Yes, you are right. It does not specifically say that the Midi R2 is capable of a 360mm rad up top, but they do specify 120mm x3 fan capability up top, so I assumed wrong when I translated that as being able to also take a 360mm rad up top.

Additionally, if I would have went with a Mini R2, Fractal Design also has a caveat "Top – 240mm or 360mm radiators (thick and slim); the use of 360mm radiators requires removal of the ODD cage" which would have been a non starter for me.

Also there is so much moving over you can do before none of the screw holes align. I got away with it with the rad in a push configuration, but that is as much as it will give. I will have my pump there as well, so that alone takes out the HDD cage, otherwise I probably would have needed to mod new screw holes to catch the cage.

@gdubc, look at my pics above, you can squeeze a 120mm rad in a push configuration in the ODD cage if you wanted to.
Edited by Gunderman456 - 3/15/14 at 5:22am
 
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81 Is fine, i would put the fan on the bottom mount next to the PSU, I got a good 5-7 degree drop in temps on my gpu

I was wondering to put one fan on the bottom.
Have you placed the fan as intake or an out-take?
Wouldn't it stealing a necessary air for the PSU fan which is next to it?
I have a carpet with little hair.
Edited by smoke2 - 3/15/14 at 5:29am
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Yes, you are right. It does not specifically say that the Midi R2 is capable of a 360mm rad up top, but they do specify 120mm x3 fan capability up top, so I assumed wrong when I translated that as being able to also take a 360mm rad up top.

Additionally, if I would have went with a Mini R2, Fractal Design also has a caveat "Top – 240mm or 360mm radiators (thick and slim); the use of 360mm radiators requires removal of the ODD cage" which would have been a non starter for me.

Also there is so much moving over you can do before none of the screw holes align. I got away with it with the rad in a push configuration, but that is as much as it will give. I will have my pump there as well, so that alone takes out the HDD cage, otherwise I probably would have needed to mod new screw holes to catch the cage.
Were you able to plug in your 8pin with the rad in the way?

There should be room to add a pump and the HDD cages. There is already mounting hols for the HDD cage by the PSU.


Also you can put the HDD beside the fan in the front and put the pump ontop of the HDD cage. Might have to make new holes.
As for the Blu-ray do you actually need it? There is ways to make it external.
    
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I took my blu-ray drive out of the case. I put it in a external enclosure that supports usb 3.0. If your interested the model is (NexStar.DX) I got it for like 30$

Honestly I like my Arc Midi, but if your going to do an extensive water cooling build its not the case for you. I've crammed mine with two radiators (XSPC RX240 and a Alphacool XT 45 280mm)

Want to run more than that? removal of the 5.25" drive cages is a must and you can fit a thick 360 up top offset in push pull.

Otherwise Id use a different case, such as the Corsair 800D, 900D, Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate, Arc XL, etc etc.
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I was wondering to put one fan on the bottom.
Have you placed the fan as intake or an out-take?
Wouldn't it stealing a necessary air for the PSU fan which is next to it?
I have a carpet with little hair.

See if you can mount it on something solid, if not then don't do it as it sucks up dust. I have the fan on the bottom as intake. The psu is also is pulling air in from the bottom.
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Were you able to plug in your 8pin with the rad in the way?

There should be room to add a pump and the HDD cages. There is already mounting hols for the HDD cage by the PSU.


Also you can put the HDD beside the fan in the front and put the pump ontop of the HDD cage. Might have to make new holes.
As for the Blu-ray do you actually need it? There is ways to make it external.

Thanks Sp33d, I considered that, but the power supply is too long to permit an HDD cage, pump and a rad in push/pull.

Yes, I was able to pull off that 360mm rad with the 8 pin in the way! coolsmiley02.gif

I did come out with a solution for keeping the SSD/HDD out front and on the bottom of the case, which I will showcase in my Hawaiian Heat Wave build log (in sig).

I also agree with you ebduncan, should have done more research before buying. I would have been happy with two 240mm rads but the two r9 290s (not withstanding my screw-up on the GPU thermal pads) were just too hot for the water loop and required more rad space.
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WD Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM LG Optical Drive Thermaltake Max Orb Windows 7 
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Viewsonic 19” Flatscreen CRT Gigabyte GK-K6800 103  Thermaltake TR2 600W Cigar Boxes 
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Zalman ZM-M300 Corsair Vengeance MM200 
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Intel i7 4770k @ 4.5GHz Asus Maximus VI Gene Gigabyte R9 290 @ 1160MHz/1350MHz Gigabyte R9 290 @ 1160MHz/1350MHz 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
G.Skill Trident X 2X8GB DDR3 2400MHz Samsung 840 PRO 256GB  Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3TB SATA III 6Gb/s 64... Pioneer Blu-ray Burner 
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Liquid Single Loop Triple Radiators Win 7 SP1 Professional x64bit  Nixeus EDG 27" IPS 1440p 144Hz 4ms FreeSync (30... Samsung SynchMaster 24" TN 1200p 60Hz 5ms TFT-L... 
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Logitech G15 EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1300w 80+ Gold Fully Modular  Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 Microsoft Sidewinder X5 
Mouse PadAudio
Allsop Redmond Mouse Pad Cambridge Soundworks 5.1 
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Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX mITX  Sapphire HD 7990 @ 1090MHz/1600MHz G.SKILL Ripjaws 2X4GB DDR3-1600 @ 1866MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial SSD 128GB mSATA SATA III 6GB  Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA II 32MB 7200RPM LG DVD R/W SATA with LightScribe Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H100 
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Win 7 Professional x64bit Samsung 52" 1080p 60Hz LCD Logitech Wireless K330 Corsair AX850 Gold Fully Modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ATX Black  Logitech Wireless M215 Corsair Vengeance MM200 Yamaha RX-V681 & PSB/Polk Audio 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon II X4 640 ASRock N68C-GS NVIDIA 6600GT G. Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM LG Optical Drive Thermaltake Max Orb Windows 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Viewsonic 19” Flatscreen CRT Gigabyte GK-K6800 103  Thermaltake TR2 600W Cigar Boxes 
MouseMouse Pad
Zalman ZM-M300 Corsair Vengeance MM200 
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May I join?


Here in Mexico its kinda hard to find good cases at a good price

My only concern are the CPU temps, in my older case (CM K280) barely reached the 65C and now I got the feelin that it gets to those temps a little more often

I know the stock coolers aren't that good, so I'll get a Corsair H100i in the next weeks
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