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If I'd like to invest for "future proof" fans, would NF-A14 PWN be most successful option? They are pricy yeah, but six years of warranty and all nice mix of flow rate, pressure and low noise profile is tempting. In this case future proof means long lasting fans I could later use with 280mm rad in front.

280mm rad should fit in R4 front if I remove HDD racks completely, correct? If 2x140mm fans are mounted in front of rad (push setup), rad can be tightened in the fans, correct?

Or should I got with 120mm fans for 240mm rad in future?

Also. 140mm fans would have later use as top exhaust (maybe with 2x140mm rads for AiO loops+kraken g10 for sli), so getting them now as temporary frontal fans is an option if 240mm will be mounted in front.

This is long term plan yeah, but so is six years of warranty.
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Originally Posted by BenJaminJr View Post

I have a14s and I plan on mounting a 280mm rad to the front also soon. I got them because I am a noctua fan, but I also have sp120s on my h220x.

If you are going to do water cooling steer away from the Noctuas. They are good for air but not radiators. Look up Scythe gentle typhoons AP-15.You need static pressure when you go radiators. I am about to change all my Noctuas out for other fans because of low static pressure.
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If you are going to do water cooling steer away from the Noctuas. They are good for air but not radiators. Look up Scythe gentle typhoons AP-15.You need static pressure when you go radiators. I am about to change all my Noctuas out for other fans because of low static pressure.

AP 15's are not sold any more, and if you do find them they are used and people charge a premium. Bad advice here.

And depending on your rad, you don't need that much pressure. Noctuas make very good static pressure.
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If you are going to do water cooling steer away from the Noctuas. They are good for air but not radiators. Look up Scythe gentle typhoons AP-15.You need static pressure when you go radiators. I am about to change all my Noctuas out for other fans because of low static pressure.
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Originally Posted by BenJaminJr View Post

AP 15's are not sold any more, and if you do find them they are used and people charge a premium. Bad advice here.

And depending on your rad, you don't need that much pressure. Noctuas make very good static pressure.

You would be correct Still thought they made AP-15 fans.

For whoever needs the information and would like to make an informative purchasing decisions on fans for radiators check this link. Thanks

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/05/07/fan-testing-round-12/
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Anyone here have a Node 804? Wondering if a 165mm tall cooler would fit. Listed spec is 160mm but I'm guessing 5mm more would still fit.
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You would be correct Still thought they made AP-15 fans.

For whoever needs the information and would like to make an informative purchasing decisions on fans for radiators check this link. Thanks

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2013/05/07/fan-testing-round-12/

I checked that link, thanks! But... what is "enough" static pressure mm/h2o I should be looking for? Those new Noctuas give little above 2mm/h2o and it seems quite much for 140 fan. It does have low noise, but I see listed specs are usually rubbish when they are mounted on rads.

But. Do they have enough pressure for r4 front for aircoooling? I mean, if I get two of those they are reusable for me in other projects when/if I go watercool.
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Hi, maybe you could help me?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1514266/define-r4-airflow-config-and-h90-question#post_22882097

Read that thread and I could propose something quite logical. I guess it should apply AiO looped build as well.

Front, in R4, ALWAYS intake. There is just no clever reason why it should be exhaust.
Rear: Why couldn't you mount push-pull exhaust with rad there? For no reason I guess. So rear is exhaust.
Top. Exhaust. And this has nothing to do with hot air rises thing. Air goes where you push it. But unless you have very specific reason, top is additional exhaust.
Bottom: Additional intake. Use easy to clean filter there!
Side: In this case, intake. Put filter there too! Usually side is exhaust because GPU make air go from bottom to sides but because you use Kraken G10, now it should be INTAKE.

Now you should have four intakes and two exhaust (or three if you mount 2 top fans). You have good positive pressure and air should flow nicely. 4/2 for in/ex is mentioned here as good fan amount and ratio for watercooling. It is useful guide too for everyone thinking about fan setup, btw.

Hope this helps smile.gif

EDIT: Read the guide again just for myself and I might invest for CM Jetflos. They are 120mm but should do the trick. Two in the front for now.
Edited by contay - 9/21/14 at 6:54am
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I checked that link, thanks! But... what is "enough" static pressure mm/h2o I should be looking for? Those new Noctuas give little above 2mm/h2o and it seems quite much for 140 fan. It does have low noise, but I see listed specs are usually rubbish when they are mounted on rads.

But. Do they have enough pressure for r4 front for aircoooling? I mean, if I get two of those they are reusable for me in other projects when/if I go watercool.

What version of Noctuas were you going for. Industrial or regular. I have NF-P12 x 14(Everywhere and anywhere say nice for air cooling for Rads not so much) and they are getting changed out sometime this week for something else. The static pressure on the fans are low for my Radiators(For some the Noctuas may be fine I have a 240 UT80 rad to push air thru). I also Have 4x 140mm Noctuas same condition with these. I mean for air cooling the Noctuas have treated me well. Just when I went to water. People have said switch the fans when I get the chance and these are guys that have been around water cooling forever.
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Originally Posted by contay View Post

Read that thread and I could propose something quite logical. I guess it should apply AiO looped build as well.

Front, in R4, ALWAYS intake. There is just no clever reason why it should be exhaust.
Rear: Why couldn't you mount push-pull exhaust with rad there? For no reason I guess. So rear is exhaust.
Top. Exhaust. And this has nothing to do with hot air rises thing. Air goes where you push it. But unless you have very specific reason, top is additional exhaust.
Bottom: Additional intake. Use easy to clean filter there!
Side: In this case, intake. Put filter there too! Usually side is exhaust because GPU make air go from bottom to sides but because you use Kraken G10, now it should be INTAKE.

Now you should have four intakes and two exhaust (or three if you mount 2 top fans). You have good positive pressure and air should flow nicely. 4/2 for in/ex is mentioned here as good fan amount and ratio for watercooling. It is useful guide too for everyone thinking about fan setup, btw.

Hope this helps smile.gif

EDIT: Read the guide again just for myself and I might invest for CM Jetflos. They are 120mm but should do the trick. Two in the front for now.

Thank you, I'll keep it in mind. The only thing I don't like is that the rear rad would not receive fresh air.
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Originally Posted by DVIELIS View Post

Thank you, I'll keep it in mind. The only thing I don't like is that the rear rad would not receive fresh air.
It makes very small difference, honestly. Air isn't too long inside the case to heat up. What really matters now is how fast air goes trough the rads. Trust me here, I am (soon) an engineer. ; )
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