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I couldn't fit my Nepton 280L in top slots. Check my pictures so you get the idea what I had to do for the case. I think mobo heatsinks may conflict with the rad if mounted on top.


You mounted it in the front? Had to remove both cages I see. I have one SSD I can mount behind the MB, but the 2x HDD and DVD will probably not all fit in the 5.25" Bay. I also just realized that there is no place to put my 3.5" media card reader.
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Got my R5 today, will be removing all drive cages to make room for rads.
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You mounted it in the front? Had to remove both cages I see. I have one SSD I can mount behind the MB, but the 2x HDD and DVD will probably not all fit in the 5.25" Bay. I also just realized that there is no place to put my 3.5" media card reader.
You are going to have hard times then. Except! Lower drive cage CAN be moved more towards the psu, as it has 120mm fan holespacing. Try it that way?
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You are going to have hard times then. Except! Lower drive cage CAN be moved more towards the psu, as it has 120mm fan holespacing. Try it that way?

That, or I'm going to have to cut a hole in the top vents to put my water-block through, and mount the radiator outside the case on top.
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I've found through trial and error that a fan mounted behind the 5.25 bays with cable ties facing the CPU cooler works a bit better then a top front intake, top front intake helps as long as your rig has plenty of space above it. Underneath the desk or similar it will recycle warm air from the back exhaust, the 5.25 bay fan I mentioned always works better whatever the situation for me.I think because it pulls the air forward from the front fans and through the bays and stops the GPU exhaust mixing with the cooler intake so much.
I agree, that's why you should also use a dust filter like one of the Silverstone ones if you go that way. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811999226. Damn they're expensive in America I bought some for about 3 GBP each last year. Funny that they don't provide filters for the top like the Arc Midi.

Thanks bro, I have removed all the hdd/odd cage except the one in bottom so the top fan mounted in middle should be able to flow air to CPU cooler directly. Additionally the PC would placed on the side of the table so there is plenty of space for warm air to escape.
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Additionally, i have notied that my Intel 730 SSD seems to be FAT for the SSD mounts and cannot be mouted, ended up mounting in the 3.5 inch drive caddy. Anyone has same issue?
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If anyone is interested, I moved my rig, including dual radiator custom watercooled loop, from a Corsair 750D into a Fractal Designs Define R5 and did a tear down:
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=1153575

Photo story: http://imgur.com/a/mWFSM

Let me know if anyone has any questions on the R5, which seems to be a great case, more than happy to recommend it to almost everyone! Never mind my overly verbose language and how nitpicky I was, it really is a great case, it was really only little things, or things that 99.9% of people would never notice that I had issues with.
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I posted a while back about noise issues with my Arc Midi R2

Seems like I found it, can't really fix it though unless anyone has suggestions.
I have 3 Noctua NF-A14 fans in my case, all of which vibrate but it isn't too noticeable, but all 3 get very loud at around 1050rpm, actually being quieter at even higher RPM's.
Not a defective fan as all 3 do it, they just don't like working around that exact speed for whatever reason.

The cheap plastic front panel on the Arc Midi R2 does a fantastic job of amplifying the noise, the noise persists even with the front panel detached from the case, vibrations throughout.
All the fans are mounted with the anti-vibration "screws" so there isn't much else I can do, applying pressure doesn't help anything.

Now... running only one of the fans on the front panel will cause a much more pleasant CONSTANT vibration, but running both as nothing is identical, the vibrations fight and make my PC sound like Skrillex.
I don't understand how the people in this topic with 2 Noctua fans on their front panel deal with the noise, or how they don't have it.
I can somewhat deal with the noise of the one fan shooting vibrations throughout the front panel, it's a constant sound, but two causes droning that is inconsistent and it's very distracting.

So I've relocated the bottom fan on the front panel to the intake on the bottom of the case, which isn't the quietest location, but now there aren't vibrations fighting with each other causing inconsistent droning.
Actually may have improved temps on my GPU by a very tiny amount, which is beneficial as it's often the hottest and loudest part of my PC.

My GPU is easily the loudest part of my PC when it gets going, but it's nowhere near as annoying as the case fans were, as the sound it produces is consistent and not deep rumbling and droning.

I've tested all 3 Noctua out of the case by holding them when they go around 1050rpm, they all do it, it's definitely the fans that do this.
I don't know whether to be upset with the fans for having a very strong rumble at specific RPM's or to be upset with my case for being so poor at dampening sounds, it actually amplifies them.
I don't care if it's a silence optimized case or not, a good case shouldn't make things louder than they are, it should be neutral, no louder or quieter, it shouldn't significantly increase the noise.
Arc Midi R2's front panel comes with built in sound amplifying technology...




I already had to suspend my HDD with elastic because this case was so bad with it, if I told you I threw a metal vibrator in it you would have believed it.
I suppose I'll get a silence optimized case next time if that translates to "doesn't make stuff you put in it suddenly 10 times louder"
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I posted a while back about noise issues with my Arc Midi R2

Seems like I found it, can't really fix it though unless anyone has suggestions.
I have 3 Noctua NF-A14 fans in my case, all of which vibrate but it isn't too noticeable, but all 3 get very loud at around 1050rpm, actually being quieter at even higher RPM's.
Not a defective fan as all 3 do it, they just don't like working around that exact speed for whatever reason.

The cheap plastic front panel on the Arc Midi R2 does a fantastic job of amplifying the noise, the noise persists even with the front panel detached from the case, vibrations throughout.
All the fans are mounted with the anti-vibration "screws" so there isn't much else I can do, applying pressure doesn't help anything.

Now... running only one of the fans on the front panel will cause a much more pleasant CONSTANT vibration, but running both as nothing is identical, the vibrations fight and make my PC sound like Skrillex.
I don't understand how the people in this topic with 2 Noctua fans on their front panel deal with the noise, or how they don't have it.
I can somewhat deal with the noise of the one fan shooting vibrations throughout the front panel, it's a constant sound, but two causes droning that is inconsistent and it's very distracting.

So I've relocated the bottom fan on the front panel to the intake on the bottom of the case, which isn't the quietest location, but now there aren't vibrations fighting with each other causing inconsistent droning.
Actually may have improved temps on my GPU by a very tiny amount, which is beneficial as it's often the hottest and loudest part of my PC.

My GPU is easily the loudest part of my PC when it gets going, but it's nowhere near as annoying as the case fans were, as the sound it produces is consistent and not deep rumbling and droning.

I've tested all 3 Noctua out of the case by holding them when they go around 1050rpm, they all do it, it's definitely the fans that do this.
I don't know whether to be upset with the fans for having a very strong rumble at specific RPM's or to be upset with my case for being so poor at dampening sounds, it actually amplifies them.
I don't care if it's a silence optimized case or not, a good case shouldn't make things louder than they are, it should be neutral, no louder or quieter, it shouldn't significantly increase the noise.
Arc Midi R2's front panel comes with built in sound amplifying technology...




I already had to suspend my HDD with elastic because this case was so bad with it, if I told you I threw a metal vibrator in it you would have believed it.
I suppose I'll get a silence optimized case next time if that translates to "doesn't make stuff you put in it suddenly 10 times louder"

Fighting this right now on my D15. Mine rumble at around 800 rpm. This is in an R4. frown.gif
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I'm really at a loss as to explain the vibration problems you are describing. I do get a sort of resonance at a certain low rpm from my front fans but I simply turn my fan controller a fraction and it goes past it. Also if I take off the dust filter panel it stops which is contrary to your experience.

Your hard drive noise problem also baffles me. Although I do not use the cages any more I used one for a good couple of months and never experienced any kind of vibration noises. This is with a 1TB Seagate Barracuda, theyre not known for being all that quiet. I had this whole rig in another case before and I haven't been dissapointed at all.

Have you considered RMAíng the case? I think someone mentioned earlier it's possible its partly a manufacturing defect or it could even have taken a knock during shipping at some point that has bent it fractionally out of shape that might be causing this.

I understand it's a bother to do, but if it annoys you so much then at least you get to try another for free and if it is still an issue you can always Ebay it as nearly new and move on to something different. smile.gif
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