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post #12521 of 16056
So I got myself a Fractal Design Define D5 on friday with 4 noctua fans and a fan controller, but im not exactly happy with the noise.
I get around 25dB where I sit and around 33dB closer to the PC.

Currently my config is:
Corsair H100i with 2 noctua's as exhaust in the top of the case
2 Noctua's in the front as intake
1 Fractal fan in the bottom as intake
1 Fractal fan in the rear as exhaust

Any tips to get the noise lower?
post #12522 of 16056
With your 580's I don't know what would be the best solution to keep them cool. What Noctua's? NF-F12's? A14's? How are you controlling your fans? Motherboard? Integrated fan controller? Running full tilt? Also a picture would be good.
The more fans you have the louder it will be. And having the H100i at the top doesn't make your computer quieter. Hence I'd try this and just see what happens:
Keep the Fractal's like they are, move the H100i to the front along with it's Noctua's as intake and seal the top.
Edited by lagittaja - 4/26/15 at 2:16am
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post #12523 of 16056
I use only 1 580.
Its the NF-F12's yes, and I run all fans with a NZXT Sentry mix 2 controller at lowest settings.

It seems like most of the noise is coming from the h100i indeed, so closing the top would probably make much difference.
If I dont remember wrong I read somewhere that as soon as you opened the top on the D5, its not silent anymore tongue.gif
post #12524 of 16056
Okay, if it's just a single 580 then it's not big of a problem biggrin.gif
This might be a good read for you, SilentPCReview didn't do a proper review of the Define R5 but they did review it as their Quiet ATX Gamer rig. Page 3 shows the build assembled and page 4 has the numbers. Including their experiment adding a fan to the bottom or the front (along with stock GP14's where they were).
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1422-page3.html

Yeah. The more holes a case has the easier it is for the noise to find it's way out of the case. Opening up the top uncovers a huge surface area. From the perspective of containing the noise it's especially a problem since you have a 240 rad which doesn't "fill" the whole space which is uncovered when you remove the two moduvents to mount your H100i. Meaning there's holes on the top which aren't covered by the radiator hence leaving a direct route for noise to escape.

Depending on how much heat your 3570K dumps in to the case with the H100i in the front as intake, you might even get away without the bottom intake.
At least SPCR didn't have much luck with their build adding a intake fan to the bottom. Couple degrees drop while adding second intake to front -> GPU temp dropped 6 degrees. Although they didn't have a rad at the front but still..

After you've tried moving the H100i to the front and sealed the top. Fire up a game or whatever you prefer for load temps and see what the GPU temps are like. Then disconnect or stop the bottom fan from spinning and see how much the temperatures will increase while still having a load on the GPU.
Edited by lagittaja - 4/26/15 at 2:43am
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post #12525 of 16056
I was thinking that I should do a push/pull config with the H100i in front with the 4 noctua F-12s to get more air for the GPU.

At the moment my PC get close to 95c when running prime95 blend tests and all fans at full. But thats fine by me. Around 70-80c when gaming a very demanding game.
post #12526 of 16056
I assume you mean CPU temperatures? Have you delidded your 3570K? If not then seeing 95C in P95 doesn't surprise me.

If you're going to run your F12's at slow speed, read like well under 1000rpm or something like that, then push/pull would benefit you, if med to high speeds then push/pull doesn't do you much with such a thin radiator.

For example KitGuru's review of the H100i. They had Corsair SP120's in both flavors, the high perf and quiet editions. According to their testing methodology they kept the room temp at 18C during all testing.
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/henry-butt/corsair-h100-h100i-performance-comparison-with-sp120-fans/4/
Since you have NF-F12's with max speed of 1500rpm I'm gonna quote the Quiet edition results from them since those fans run at 1450rpm when full tilt.
With i7-3770K @ 4.7Ghz / 1.3V, going from 2x SP120 Quiet -> 4x SP120 Quiet yields 2C drop to CPU temperature.

Here's another H100i review from a site I haven't come across before. They had two H100i samples so they did push vs push/pull comparison.
http://skratchwizpc.net/reviews/corsair-h100i-corsair-link-test-results/
They also had an i7-3770K but @ 4.5Ghz / 1.3V.
Going from stock 2x fans at Quiet preset -> stock 4x fans at Quiet preset = Delta -3.5C
Going from stock 2x fans at balanced -> stock 4x fans at balanced = Delta -2.8C

I don't know what the fan speeds are for the stock fans at the different presets but I'd make a wild guess that the SP120L's the H100i comes with run at around 900-1100rpm at the quiet preset considering it's 2700rpm max fan compared to the retail SP120 high perf which is 2350rpm max and starts at 4V.
So even at the quiet preset the gain is only 3½ degrees celcius. Then consider these are i7 temps, Hyper Threading adds a measurable amount of heat and you "only" have an i5.

But go ahead and see what happens with push vs push/pull at the front with CPU and GPU temps. The pull fans would be relatively easy to mount and then remove if you come to a conclusion that you don't need them.
Edited by lagittaja - 4/26/15 at 4:23am
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post #12527 of 16056
Yes I have not delidded my CPU.

I just tried mounting the radiator in front, but I dident actually notice any difference in sound. If anything its still as "noisy"...
Its not very easy to localize the source but it seems like the GPU and H100i pump makes the most noise, or is that causes the deeper more noticeable noise.
post #12528 of 16056
I have push pull on mine h100i with 4 Noctua NF-A12 PWM, running arround 800 rpm and my temps don't go higher than 60c .i7 920@4.00Ghz.
post #12529 of 16056
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Originally Posted by Aventadoor View Post

Yes I have not delidded my CPU.

I just tried mounting the radiator in front, but I dident actually notice any difference in sound. If anything its still as "noisy"...
Its not very easy to localize the source but it seems like the GPU and H100i pump makes the most noise, or is that causes the deeper more noticeable noise.

It's probably your H100i pump. A pump running at 2000rpm bolted straight to your motherboard which is securely mounted to the case.. It's not gonna be silent. It might not be noisy itself but strap it on to something and then the vibrations it makes..

And don't forget about your power supply. If it's the TX750 V1 then it's fans minimum speed is 1100rpm and around 1300rpm at half load. If it's V2 then it's min speed and half load speed are ~1240rpm.
Edited by lagittaja - 4/27/15 at 2:21am
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post #12530 of 16056
I got a Evga SuperNova 850W G2 now.

It seems like its the combination with pump, radiator and fans creating sound bcuz of the dens fins on the radiator.
If I could lower the fan speed even more, it would be good, but I cant with the NZXT...
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