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post #12541 of 16052
Hello I saw Jayztwocents video about his 12 fan setup on his pc and got me wondering if you could fill all the 120mm slots in the Midi R2 with 30mm rads and one fan each. Like a 360mm pull on the top, 240 push in the front, 120 push in the bottom and 120 pull in the back. To set them all with high pressure fans but at low rpm 800-ish maybe for super quiet yet good cooling performance. Does anyone think/know it would all fit?

Thanks in advance.
post #12542 of 16052
Hi everyone! I'm looking to change my casing to the R5. However, my current customer sleeved cables is pretty short and i'm hoping i don't need to get extensions/new ones if possible.

24pin ATX - 500mm
8pin CPU - 550mm
6+2pin PCIE - 500mm

Does anyone know if these cables are long enough from my PSU (Seasonic P760w) to the motherboard and GPU? Especially concerned with the 8pin CPU.

Really hope someone could enlighten me? If the lengths are sufficient, i'll probably take the plunge and hoot it! smile.gif

Thanks in advance!
post #12543 of 16052
The 8pin is gonna fall short I'm afraid. The other's, well I can't say for certain but I'd say they're long enough.
Do you no longer have the stock cables or did you use them while sleeving?
I have a Seasonic P660W and use it's stock cables. The 8pin is 650mm and PCI-e / ATX are 600mm long.
Here's my cable work. Click for a larger picture.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagittaja View Post

A tad under exposed but on top there's not much cables and all go straight to the back. There's rear and hs fan cables and also the 8pin which wouldn't even be visible considering the angle..
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le spaghetti, was a bit tired at this point so whatever. Out of sight, out of mind.
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8pin is pretty much perfect length, it comes straight from the PSU and goes pretty much straight to the 8pin at the motherboard not including that trip it makes towards the rear of the case before making a 90 bend and heading up..
The route I took those PCI-e power cables though is longer than necessary. With your shorter cables you can run them behind the motherboard like I have and then have them come back from where I have the SATA cables coming from. Much shorter route biggrin.gif
Edited by lagittaja - 4/28/15 at 10:45am
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post #12544 of 16052
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Originally Posted by lagittaja View Post

The 8pin is gonna fall short I'm afraid. The other's, well I can't say for certain but I'd say they're long enough.
Do you no longer have the stock cables or did you use them while sleeving?
I have a Seasonic P660W and use it's stock cables. The 8pin is 650mm and PCI-e / ATX are 600mm long.
Here's my cable work. Click for a larger picture.
8pin is pretty much perfect length, it comes straight from the PSU and goes pretty much straight to the 8pin at the motherboard not including that trip it makes towards the rear of the case before making a 90 bend and heading up..
The route I took those PCI-e power cables though is longer than necessary. With your shorter cables you can run them behind the motherboard like I have and then have them come back from where I have the SATA cables coming from. Much shorter route biggrin.gif

Thanks Lagittaja for the fast reply! Yea it looks like the 8pin wont be long enough. Though i'm wondering what if i go diagonally up instead, will it somehow be sufficient? :/ i do have my stock cables too. But as the sleeved ones i got is white sleeved, would find it weird to see a stock black cable sticking out from PSU side at least. The others seem fine indeed. Oh well..
post #12545 of 16052
Well, I went ahead and measured it. Freed the 8pin from the SSD mount, pulled the cable straight and measured the slack. Roughly 110mm..
So with this new information, I'd say it's a tight squeeze biggrin.gif You'll probably want to leave that left SSD mount empty and even remove the bracket to have the 8pin run as close to the motherboard tray as possible.

I'd go for it if I were you. It's a wonderful case and I wouldn't let a 8pin cable hold me from it. If it won't reach then it won't. Simple as that. Then you'll either have to use the stock cable or make a new cable.

P.S. Good thing I didn't have the right side of the case against the wall, easy to access the spaghetti compartment.

E:
Also regarding the PSU side of the 8pin, I for the life of me can't remember on which connector I have the 8pin plugged.
Since were talking millimeters here it's probably gonna matter whether you have the power supply fan
a) facing upward and the 8pin connected to the only CPU/PCI-e connector on the top row
b) facing down and the 8pin connected to the CPU/PCI-e connector which is next to the second M/B connector on the bottom row.

I'll go and take a peek inside..

E2: You're good, go ahead and order the case if this was your primary concern holding you back?
I've connected the 8pin to the bottom row of the connectors and next to the second motherboard connector and I have the fan facing updwards.. Hence you're good.
If I'd have the 8pin connected to the top row only CPU/PCI-e it would mean at least 5cm more reach for the 8pin doh.gif

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The reason why I've done so is that I've worked my way with the cables from the components to the power supply, not the other way around which is probably what most people do. The freedom with modular cables is so nice biggrin.gif
And since I've connected the motherboard cables first I must have connected it next to the motherboard connectors just because...reasons. Maybe for the fact that they would be nice and close and easy to tie together with the included strap..
Edited by lagittaja - 4/28/15 at 12:04pm
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post #12546 of 16052
Woo ok thanks lagittaja! You have been most helpful! Guess i just to spend more effort cable managing to make it sweet. Shall take the plunge then!
post #12547 of 16052
Hi everyone, i just wanted to stop by and ask those who have the Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 what they thought of their case? Hows the airflow with this case?
post #12548 of 16052
Remove grills, don't use filters, remove drive cages and all the cases are pretty much equal. It's a box, how much different can the airflow really be from other boxes, not much. The biggest culprits are the stupid metal grills and filters and other obstructions of intake and outtake.
post #12549 of 16052
Indeed but I wouldn't remove filters unless you want dust inside your computer. I plan on cutting the stupid honeycomb grill from the rear fan slot on my Define R5 and adding a wire grill.
Puget Systems has a great article on this. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Effects-of-Grill-Patterns-on-Fan-Performance-Noise-107/
A traditional honeycomb grill is a 9% decrease to airflow on the exhaust side (8% on intake). Noise wise they measured an 2.5 dBA (35.5->38 or 7%) increase on low fan speed and 3dBA (55->58 or 5.5%) increase on high fan speed.
A simple wire grill on exhaust side decreased airflow by 3-4% on exhaust side (2% on intake). Noise wise they measured a increase of ½ dBA on low fan speed and .8 dbA increase on high fan speed.
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post #12550 of 16052
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Indeed but I wouldn't remove filters unless you want dust inside your computer. I plan on cutting the stupid honeycomb grill from the rear fan slot on my Define R5 and adding a wire grill.
Puget Systems has a great article on this. https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Effects-of-Grill-Patterns-on-Fan-Performance-Noise-107/
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A simple wire grill on exhaust side decreased airflow by 3-4% on exhaust side (2% on intake). Noise wise they measured a increase of ½ dBA on low fan speed and .8 dbA increase on high fan speed.
Not sure what you will gain doing so. I am using one of fractals new venturi 140mm Fans and it is pushing a ton of air through there without any modification. its only a 1200RPM fan at max. I cannot hear any noise from the air passing through there unless I position my ear behind the case.
Edited by Wirerat - 5/1/15 at 4:07pm
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