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thanks for the pics thedoo. Do you mind telling us what rad you have up top as well as what mobo and if you have tight clearance w/ the vrm
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Originally Posted by anotheraznguy View Post

thanks for the pics thedoo. Do you mind telling us what rad you have up top as well as what mobo and if you have tight clearance w/ the vrm

I have a 240 Alphacool XT45 on the top, only one set of fans for the moment. Mobo is the X99 Sabertooth. Plenty of space for another set of fans since the 120mm fan mounts are offset. No issue with the VRM cooler, even though the Sabertooth has a fairly large one. If you have large RAM heatsinks there might be a problem with Push/Pull. I'll see if I can get a picture later today for a better look at spacing.
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I have a 240 Alphacool XT45 on the top, only one set of fans for the moment. Mobo is the X99 Sabertooth. Plenty of space for another set of fans since the 120mm fan mounts are offset. No issue with the VRM cooler, even though the Sabertooth has a fairly large one. If you have large RAM heatsinks there might be a problem with Push/Pull. I'll see if I can get a picture later today for a better look at spacing.

May I ask how thick the front rad is? Do you think there is enough space for a 250mm tube reservoir mounted in the same way as you have it. Also, what do you think about the airflow of the case overall and the front intake?
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fisher, the xt45 physical width is 46mm.

thedoo, do you believe a 280/420 radiator with the max height of 55mm would clear your mobo? I am trying to determine if i can shove a 420 up top and a 280 in the front.

Thanks for all the help.
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May I ask how thick the front rad is? Do you think there is enough space for a 250mm tube reservoir mounted in the same way as you have it. Also, what do you think about the airflow of the case overall and the front intake?

The pump housing is wider than the reservoir, so if the pump/res combo fits with a smaller reservoir, in my case a 140mm, I believe you will only be limited in height of the case itself. Should be plenty for a 250mm tube. Haven't had the chance to actually test airflow or anything as I'm still building in it, but even with a large tube reservoir, front intake should be fairly unrestricted.

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fisher, the xt45 physical width is 46mm.

thedoo, do you believe a 280/420 radiator with the max height of 55mm would clear your mobo? I am trying to determine if i can shove a 420 up top and a 280 in the front.

Thanks for all the help.

It was originally my plan to go with a 420 in the top, but even with a 30mm radiator, the 140mm fan mounts are not offset enough and end up hitting part of the shroud near the IO ports on the X99 Sabertooth.

Here's a crappy MS-paint of where it hits:


I didn't try taking the shroud off, so I'm not sure if it would fit otherwise. But it seems like there was a chance it would. As the 120mm mounts are more offset, I decided to just go with that instead.
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thedoo, one more question. being that the EK-XRES D5 we both have has 2 inlets. they both are recessed. being that i would be blocking both and having the inlet on the top with the new pump top. do i need to get another special EK-Extender G1/4 to plug the other inlet?
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/EK-IM/EK-IM-3831109842799.pdf

would i just need to use 2 regular plugs or have to buy another extender? i can't think right today and just want to make sure before i place the order.
Edited by valkyrie743 - 5/19/15 at 1:33pm
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thedoo, one more question. being that the EK-XRES D5 we both have has 2 inlets. they both are recessed. being that i would be blocking both and having the inlet on the top with the new pump top. do i need to get another special EK-Extender G1/4 to plug the other inlet?
http://www.ekwb.com/shop/EK-IM/EK-IM-3831109842799.pdf

would i just need to use 2 regular plugs or have to buy another extender? i can't think right today and just want to make sure before i place the order.

You don't need to use the extender if you are just plugging the inlet.
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The pump housing is wider than the reservoir, so if the pump/res combo fits with a smaller reservoir, in my case a 140mm, I believe you will only be limited in height of the case itself. Should be plenty for a 250mm tube. Haven't had the chance to actually test airflow or anything as I'm still building in it, but even with a large tube reservoir, front intake should be fairly unrestricted.
It was originally my plan to go with a 420 in the top, but even with a 30mm radiator, the 140mm fan mounts are not offset enough and end up hitting part of the shroud near the IO ports on the X99 Sabertooth.

Here's a crappy MS-paint of where it hits:


I didn't try taking the shroud off, so I'm not sure if it would fit otherwise. But it seems like there was a chance it would. As the 120mm mounts are more offset, I decided to just go with that instead.
looks the cpu 4pin+8pin could have been a issue too with the psu connected they get tall.

fractal really only has room for a 420 with some cheaper low profile mobos.
Edited by Wirerat - 5/19/15 at 2:15pm
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I don't even think the issue is with a cheap or expensive motherboard. It all depends on whether or not the mobo has an I/O shield. And even after that, you need to look at the I/o to see what the first leftmost plug is. i noticed that on the Asus Sabertooth the first I/O is a quad stack of usb ports where as the Asus Deluxe has a short BIOS reset switch.

I broke down an bought a Define S today and will be doing some measurements for my own sanity to see what mobo is even possible as well as what radiator size might fit.

Here are what i gathered from the manual and it shows that the max width for front rad is 60mm, however they are assuming you will place the front fans outside the case.






On that note, i will say that the new batch of motherboards for x99 are seriously packed tightly to make room for all the goodies. The problem is that they are starting to cause issues with clearance between heatsink/memory or heatsink/gpu or even memory/gpu

I have been trying to finalize this build for almost 2 weeks now and it is very stressful and tiring trying to find components that will even work together or a suitable motherboard.

At least i will have a case now
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Can an AlphaCool UT60 360mm rad fit in the top of a Define R5?

And if not, and the rad has to go in the front....what would the air flow configuration look like? Top and back intake, and the front exhaust?
Edited by Lettuceman - 5/20/15 at 5:36am
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