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Originally Posted by levontraut View Post

So I bought a R5 yesterday and compared to my XL2 and R4 the build quality is horrible.

What are your thoughts?


Cheers
Levon

How so?
post #12682 of 16063
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Originally Posted by hornedfrog86 View Post

How so?

lets look at the hdd cages.

The R5 is lacking cover and I am sure if I wipe it to hard the paint/powder coating will come off (very patchy, to the point I am surprised it got past QC)
The R4 and XL2 is nice and thick.


The R5 rubbers for the hdd cages are so weak and I am scared to use them as it wants to tear.
The R4 and XL2 rubbers are nice and strong hard yet soft enough to work with.

Also on the R5 I am sure I am missing little rubber stoppers for the door. there is just this void with nothing in it( has a screw thread for rubber stoppers but nothing)


Just from what I saw in the R4 and the XL2 I really thought I was going to get a good case but I am very disjointed with it.
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Originally Posted by levontraut View Post

lets look at the hdd cages.

The R5 is lacking cover and I am sure if I wipe it to hard the paint/powder coating will come off (very patchy, to the point I am surprised it got past QC)
The R4 and XL2 is nice and thick.


The R5 rubbers for the hdd cages are so weak and I am scared to use them as it wants to tear.
The R4 and XL2 rubbers are nice and strong hard yet soft enough to work with.

Also on the R5 I am sure I am missing little rubber stoppers for the door. there is just this void with nothing in it( has a screw thread for rubber stoppers but nothing)


Just from what I saw in the R4 and the XL2 I really thought I was going to get a good case but I am very disjointed with it.

Can you exchange it? They might have made a dud.
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I have already transferred all the parts over to the new case.
I dont feel like swapping it all again.
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What rubber stoppers? Those screw holes are for the door hinge mechanism, you can change the direction the door opens.
At least imho there's no need for rubber stoppers considering the way the door locks in place. Sure if you slam the damn thing shut with all the force you can muster..

And regarding the paint job, it's a bit on the thin side but "wipe it too hard" and it'll get damaged? LOL. Sure it will get scratched if you grab a screwdriver and go to town.
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post #12686 of 16063
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Originally Posted by smoke2 View Post

Do you think the top front fan helps to cool down the graphics card also in my case?
Well for me what helps most is to open the case biggrin.gif
But that's because CPU hardly goes to 70C which where the fans start to spin up from the idle 500-600rpm to about 800rpm or so.
Intakes always help.
post #12687 of 16063
Done some minor updates to my R5. Added a bitspower ddc heatsink, ek 140 xres and cleaned up some tubing runs.



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smoke2, regarding your fan setup. Your bottom intake is more than likely the unnecessary fan in the equation.
SilentPCReview used Define R5* for their Quiet ATX Gaming rig article.
Starting point was two system fans, a single front intake (upper slot) and a single rear exhaust.
Components wise they had a i5-4670K with a Scythe Kotetsu, GTX 980 Strix and a bq! Straight Power 10 600W.

They first tried adding a bottom intake, 140mm Fractal Design fan from the Define R4.
All fans spun at same speed, 500rpm. ½ dBA rise in noise levels and a couple of degress off of from GPU and PCH temps.

Then they removed the bottom fan, removed the lower HDD cage and then added a second front fan, an Antec TrueQuiet 140.
All components saw a temperature drop under load, GPU dropped the most, a decent 6C (87->81). And no measureable difference in noise.
They then went ahead and adjusted the GPU fan profile ever so slightly, dropping the overall system noise levels just a touch while only increasing the GPU temp by 3C (81->84).

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1422-page4.html

So, if I were you, I'd try experimenting with the bottom fan.

*Although it is worth mentioning that the Define R5 front side intake holes are less restrictive than on the Define R4.
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They first tried adding a bottom intake, 140mm Fractal Design fan from the Define R4.
All fans spun at same speed, 500rpm. ½ dBA rise in noise levels and a couple of degress off of from GPU and PCH temps.
FD fans don't run well when in horizontal inverted position, they vibrate. At least both my FD R4 fans do.
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They then went ahead and adjusted the GPU fan profile ever so slightly, dropping the overall system noise levels just a touch while only increasing the GPU temp by 3C (81->84).
GPU over 80C on load is not good :/ But I get it, that's what Nvidia sets their card fan profiles for to keep the cards quieter and burn them instead until they throttle performance by reducing boost clock and voltage, which I guess is at 85C.
post #12690 of 16063
Just moved everything from a Bitfenix Shinobi to my new R5. I don't think I will ever buy another cheaply made case again. I want to dismantle my PC just so I can put it back together again!
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