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Well, the fans included might not be good so you're probably going to swap them. It would be pretty awesome to see some high CFM/dBA Sanyo Denki's coming with these cases although that would push the price up really high.

True. Personally I would rather cases just came without fans. I'll never use the stock ones unless Scythe ever makes a case I want.
    
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True. Personally I would rather cases just came without fans. I'll never use the stock ones unless Scythe ever makes a case I want.

If that happens, I hope the prices of the cases cut at least by how many fans and how expensive they sell them at normally.
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^ You really can't consider it a con that it has no pwm fans... Almost no case does. PWM is meant for coolers and fan controllers for case fans tongue.gif
Well, many modern motherboards can handle pwm fans today. If you have plenty of fans, you just need a pwm splitter and you have the best possible setup (low rpms, unless when needed, all automated).
Cost-wise I do see the issue, but buying a case with 3 fans just to throw them away kinda sucks.

BTW, I've ordered a sentry mesh: the stock fans are good enough for me.
Out of curiosity, what would be a good 140mm PWM fan (not loud) for the Arc Midi ?

MaX.
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post #1276 of 15981
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Well, many modern motherboards can handle pwm fans today. If you have plenty of fans, you just need a pwm splitter and you have the best possible setup (low rpms, unless when needed, all automated).
Cost-wise I do see the issue, but buying a case with 3 fans just to throw them away kinda sucks.
BTW, I've ordered a sentry mesh: the stock fans are good enough for me.
Out of curiosity, what would be a good 140mm PWM fan (not loud) for the Arc Midi ?
MaX.

Problem is that PWM does not differentiate between those fans. If you split 3 fans off one PWM signal it's gonna think they are all the same fan, performing the same cooling function, when they aren't; I mean, unless you're running a heatsink with three identical fans strapped to it. Just because the 120mm fan on the heatsink needs to be at 70% doesn't mean the 140mm intake fan needs to be. etc and so forth. Generally there is a secondary "System" PWM connection, but then you risk a cycle of case fans slow down..temps go up...case fans speed up...temps go down..speed goes down...up and down and up and down.

Then there's the problem with using PWM for a cooler, even, since it invariably cannot react as fast as your temps go up, resulting in your CPU temp jacking up for a couple seconds until the fan catches up to cool it. That happens to a lesser extent when you have a proactive fan profile but it still happens. I'm ranting. tldr: I prefer consistent airflow whenever possible.
Edited by Otterclock - 1/25/12 at 4:35pm
    
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Nice set up..! thumb.gif

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post #1278 of 15981
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True. Personally I would rather cases just came without fans. I'll never use the stock ones unless Scythe ever makes a case I want.

If that happens, I hope the prices of the cases cut at least by how many fans and how expensive they sell them at normally.
Bitfenix's Core-edition cases come without fans but the price difference between regular and core-case should be a bit bigger imho.
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Out of curiosity, what would be a good 140mm PWM fan (not loud) for the Arc Midi ?
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post #1279 of 15981
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*snip*
Not bad for a non-modular PSU rolleyes.gif

You got that right laugher.gif Mine is a complete mess lol

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I got a bit of TIM on the PSU in case you are wondering what that is. I need to clean that laugher.gif
    
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*snip*
Not bad for a non-modular PSU rolleyes.gif

You got that right laugher.gif Mine is a complete mess lol
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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I got a bit of TIM on the PSU in case you are wondering what that is. I need to clean that laugher.gif

Could use a little work, 3-pin fan extensions maybe. If I can fit a full PSU worth of cables in an mATX case, I think you can manage thumb.gif

And just use an alcohol wipe to clean off TIM, I've been using 70% isopropyl alcohol Webcol Alcohol Wipes for years to clean TIM or prep parts before I sand and paint them.

I believe in you tongue.gif
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Fractal Design Core 1000 Mionix Castor Monoprice XXL JL Amps + Custom Morel Bookshelf speakers 
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