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Could you explain why you say the front is not a good position for a radiator?
Thanks...
With a rad in front as intake it is blowing hot air back across the components it just removed the heat from.

Thats why I only used a 140mm rad in front with fans in both slots. That way the heat from the front rad is getting mixed with cool air coming in from the lower front and bottom fan.

I prefer all rads as intakes though. That puts the coldest air possible over the rads. I also use the filters. I know it costs me air flow but I love how clean the inside stays. I even added a Demci filter on the top when I removed the moduvents.
Edited by Wirerat - 6/19/15 at 8:43am
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Could you explain why you say the front is not a good position for a radiator?
Thanks...
Because you exhaust the heat into the case and not outside of it, making all other cooling much less efficient and also the radiator less efficient, it's to a certain degree like feeding the hot air exhaust back as the radiator intake, this happens by blowing the heat back onto your GPU and CPU, the heat circles and builds up. Want a radiator, put it as exhaust not intake. But with the limited options in standard cases you will often see front+top rad. combination.
Personally I would rather create a chamber in front instead of cages, which you will have to remove with front rad. anyway, and blow air out on the side, create a chamber and separate the area from rest of the case.
You can blow side to side or front to side, doesn't matter really. But people often get a windowed case and want to show it off, don't mod really, just buy and slap it together as it comes from the shop. Taking the time and effort to create a chamber when using front rad., well I've hardly seen it yet.
Edited by JackCY - 6/19/15 at 8:46am
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While it has certain merit, I have never felt hot air come from my rad, slightly warmer than ambient but never enough to alter gpu temps. My h105 blowed into my case and the air wan not hot even when I have the cpu stressed out the produce heat. What I do know is having a rad at the top as exhaust uses the hot air produce by the gpu making the cpu run hotter than the front setup. When I had my 350d the best place for the rad was in the front which kept everyone's temps happy.

Each setup reaps different results so test to see.
Edited by smithydan - 6/22/15 at 7:16pm
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There's nothing wrong with intaking air through the rads into the case. The temp inside the case is negligible compared to the water blocks on the processors. The only case where I wouldn't intake through the rads is if the GPU is air cooled while the CPU is water cooled.

You get better temperatures if all your rads are intake.
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Hi guys - thanks for the previous answers - helped a lot!

Now I'm toying with the idea of full custom loop - never tried it before, but would like to see if I can make it happen. I'm planning to cool 5820K @1.25V @4.5GHz and eventually two overlclocked Titan Xs (now have one - but each pulls about 330-360W of power)

I'm thinking:

FRONT: 2x140intake
TOP: 360 radiator exhaust (something like Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta Full Copper 360mm)
BACK: 1x140 intake
BOTTOM: 140 radiator exhaust (something like Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 140mm)

Now the other way around would be to have the smaller radiator in the back and the back 140 intake in the bottom instead - but I'm not sure if there wouldn't be clearance issues between the 140 in the back and 360 in the top? I'm thinking of running push pull on both the rads.

So the questions:
1) Is this a plausible setup? I see a lot of people adding another radiator in the front, but then there is not "fresh intake" which has me worried
2) Would there be clearance for the smaller radiator in the back? If so - is it better to have it in the back or in the top?
3) Cooling wise - is it better to run slimmer 420 (not even sure I could have it as push pull) on top or like I have the 360?

Any other suggestions welcomed! Thank you very much!
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Hi guys - thanks for the previous answers - helped a lot!

Now I'm toying with the idea of full custom loop - never tried it before, but would like to see if I can make it happen. I'm planning to cool 5820K @1.25V @4.5GHz and eventually two overlclocked Titan Xs (now have one - but each pulls about 330-360W of power)

I'm thinking:

FRONT: 2x140intake
TOP: 360 radiator exhaust (something like Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta Full Copper 360mm)
BACK: 1x140 intake
BOTTOM: 140 radiator exhaust (something like Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 140mm)

Now the other way around would be to have the smaller radiator in the back and the back 140 intake in the bottom instead - but I'm not sure if there wouldn't be clearance issues between the 140 in the back and 360 in the top? I'm thinking of running push pull on both the rads.

So the questions:
1) Is this a plausible setup? I see a lot of people adding another radiator in the front, but then there is not "fresh intake" which has me worried
2) Would there be clearance for the smaller radiator in the back? If so - is it better to have it in the back or in the top?
3) Cooling wise - is it better to run slimmer 420 (not even sure I could have it as push pull) on top or like I have the 360?

Any other suggestions welcomed! Thank you very much!

About copper rads. This question once in a while pops out: does it matter if some blocks are (and rads) are copper and others aluminium? From electrochemical point it does matter, but is it a problem in real life or just in chemistry calculations?
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It's a real life problem. Mixing aluminium and copper in the same loop is bad.
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It's a real life problem. Mixing aluminium and copper in the same loop is bad.

That's what I thought. Combined with tube connections made from third metal, there is high possibility of corrosion then. It is hard to imagine there would be a hole in rad because of corrosion, but unified layer of corrosion makes (catastrofic) things for thermal transfer.

Ps, hello Lagittaja. Sincerely, Contay from Muro.
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That's what I thought. Combined with tube connections made from third metal, there is high possibility of corrosion then. It is hard to imagine there would be a hole in rad because of corrosion, but unified layer of corrosion makes (catastrofic) things for thermal transfer.

Ps, hello Lagittaja. Sincerely, Contay from Muro.

A little galvanic corrosion for you. What happens when Aluminum and copper/nickel meet
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1740358
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A little galvanic corrosion for you. What happens when Aluminum and copper/nickel meet
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1740358

Abd thats why I mentioned catastrophic there. As soon-to-graduate energy engineers I'm familiar with galvanic corrosion in much larger scale (ex. Power plants and induatrial piping) but I was very curious would ot affect as much on so small system. But that was even more serious than I thought.
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